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System refuses to boot without a CD


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#1 Turaiel

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:30 PM

Whenever I attempt to boot my computer without a CD in the drive, the system says "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key" and halts. The interesting thing is that if I put in a Windows CD and skip the "press any key to boot from DVD" prompt, the hard drive boots perfectly. I've tried changing the boot order and disconnecting the drives individually and nothing seems to help. Windows Recovery Environment always detects issues with my startup settings, and I've restored the BCD so, so many times. Also, the system will always try to boot to other hard drives first.

Another issue I've found is that the BIOS will hang for a while if I have two CD drives connected, regardless of where the jumpers are on them. The BIOS lists it as a single CD drive whose name is a bunch of jumbled characters.

The optical drives are IDE, and the hard drive is SATA. Any suggestions?

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:53 PM

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 04:20 PM

What is the current boot oder?

Do attempted changes of settings...actually take and survive a reboot of the system? After reboot, are the changes that you made...saved BIOS options?

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 04:22 PM

The boot order is Optical, Hard Disk. I've also tried with Hard Disk only. The settings are preserved after reboots and power cycles.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:37 AM

I've tried ...... disconnecting the drives individually

What happens if you disconnect all IDE devices (ie. both optical drives)?
Does your system then boot normally to the SATA hard drive?

If so, what happens when you then re-connect one of the optical drives?
Does it still continue to boot to the SATA hard drive or revert to wanting to boot first from an optical drive?
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:50 PM

It will continue to fail booting even with all the IDE optical drives disconnected. I did discover though that it will boot to an IDE hard drive.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:55 PM

Please look at the SATA port connections on the motherboard and identify which port you have the cable (from the hard drive) connected to.

If it is not already connected to SATA port #0 or #1, then that could be the problem. Try connecting the cable to the lowest port number, and then attempting to boot from the hard drive.

Edited by AustrAlien, 23 November 2011 - 12:57 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:58 PM

The drive is connected to SATA 1. I should add: not too long ago, I was getting "BOOTMGR is missing. Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart," and I would have to rebuild the BCD every time I booted with the recovery DVD for Windows 7. For some reason it's just not detecting the hard drive now.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:10 PM

The drive is connected to SATA 1.

In that case, try connecting to a different port and test booting the system.

There may be a problem with that particular SATA port. (It's not likely, but it has been known to happen before.)
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:18 PM

It's not booting from any of the ports :/

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:33 PM

In that case, the mystery deepens!

Based on what you have reported, one possibility that occurs to me is that the BIOS is retaining memory of a hardware configuration that is no longer applicable and not checking for an altered configuration on startup. If that is the case, you would need to "reset CMOS". This is usually done by removing the motherboard battery and shifting a jumper on the motherboard (often labeled "clear CMOS") for a short period of time. Do you know how to do this, or do you have available, instructions for doing this for your particular motherboard? If not, please provide system specs/motherboard model so that I can supply the correct instructions.

Note: I attempted to access the link that you have provided to your system specs in your signature, but the website is not accessible to me.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:35 PM

Sorry about the link. My server is currently down for hardware upgrades. I do know where the jumper is, so I'll try shifting it for a bit and see what happens.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:40 PM

So, apparently there is a "BIOS Config" jumper, and a "CMOS Clr" jumper, but the "CMOS clr" one does not have posts soldered onto it. I can shift the "BIOS Config" jumper and it takes me to advanced setup, but removing the jumper doesn't even POST (and actually polls the floppy drive several times). It's an Intel 945DNG board if I recall correctly.

UPDATE: Removing the CMOS battery reset it, but it still won't boot.

Edited by Turaiel , 23 November 2011 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:46 PM

It's an Intel 945DNG board if I recall correctly.

Please examine the motherboard to find the exact identification information. We should not be relying on possibly incorrect recall.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:50 PM

It's a D945GNT, sorry about that.




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