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#1 tsquared56

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:32 PM

New build that's two-three weeks old, give or take, old. Got Skyrim today, and while I haven't played it non-stop, it's been used pretty heavily on and off all day. Using CoreTemp right now - having shut down Skyrim about 10 minutes ago, I have a Min of 46/44/46/42 and a max of 75/75/74/73. Earlier I noticed I had a max of 91/90/don't remember the other two cores.

While the 70s don't really make me nervous, seeing that the max was 90+ scared the crap out of me. I had been running both Oblivion AND Fallout 3, both at max settings, both for much longer periods than I had run Skyrim for, and CoreTemp never registered anything above low 70s. Should I be worried with the 90 or treat it as a fluke thing? My GPU's max actually never went above 48. That's a Raedon 6770.

I've got an Intel Core i7 950 Bloomfield quad that's not overclocked. I have an aftermarket MassCool heatsink. I don't suspect I did something stupid with the arctic silver/heatsink/CPU because I'd have noticed that by now I'd think.

I guess I'm looking for someone to either talk me off the ledge or tell me it's time to panic :lol:

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:29 PM

are those temps in Celsius or faherenheit? the max temp for that CPU is 67.9 degrees celsius, (intels rating) from what im reading they can push 75-76 but its pushing it, I would be trying to find a way to cool it down. It doesnt hurt to remove the heatsink and clean it off and reapply the thermal interface fluid-remember just enough to barely coat the entire surface of the die, to much can work against you, and reset the heatsink. Also, how are your fans set up in your case? There should be at least one intake on the front of the case and one exhaust on the back, if not more. If you were to post your full specs, including motherboard, video, powersupply and case as well as any fans I may be able to offer better advice.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:01 PM

Ok I just checked around and 100c seems to be max temp you want to go . Apparently the 950 i7 run a little warm . My advice is to get a cpu stress program and run at max for a minute or two while watching the temp { don`t get alarmed if temp goes up fast , simply stop program } and then fiddle with airflow { I always like lots of cool air in } Another issue you maybe are not aware of can be " burn in" of your cpu . What happens is that in a new cpu all the internal connections may not be quite "clean" and as a result exess heat can arise . A simple and safe way to "burn in" your new cpu is remove cover on your case and position a ordinary room fan directly towards motherboard { you want everything extra cool } taking care {watching temps} that at ordinary idle your cpu and motherboard are lower temp than normal {cover on}.Next start cpu stress program and take temp to 102c >103c { watch temp carefully , only a few seconds over 100c} stop program and let everything cool down. repeat and repeat many times always note idle temp. when idle temp goes down lower than normal you are done. {always make sure idle temp is lowest for a few minutes before repeating} I did this with a Pentium D that ran too warm after only a few minutes of anything and now never exceeds 57c under normal usage { computing for boinc or games } whereas before it hit 68c >71c {max is only 63c} Anyway the main thing is don`t exceed max temp by more than 4c and not more than a few seconds and you can`t hurt your cpu .One more thing to help speed process is to overclock your mb bus by smallest amount possible while burning in and then reset to normal when finished.doublecheck your max temp rating!!

Edited by kbit, 11 November 2011 - 11:19 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:22 PM

I would hesitate bringing that CPU even to 100 C, even for a few seconds. Ive read online they can go up to around 90, but according to intel the max rated temperature is 67.9-thats the people who designed it. I would trust the designors over a few overclockers out there. Yes, many CPUs will run hotter then what the manufacturer recomends, but if you push the line your asking for trouble.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:42 PM

to help in understanding
http://www.techreaction.net/2009/10/14/guide-to-understanding-intel-temperatures/
and don`t forget the built in protections of cpu {be happy, don`t worry}
And I did say DOUBLECHECK MAX RATED TEMP and sorry i used a number.

Edited by kbit, 11 November 2011 - 11:47 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2011 - 06:42 AM

My specs are the i7 950 CPU, XFX Radeon 6770, ASUS Sabertooth x58 Mobo, Cruical DDR3 (2 sets of 3x2GB), Corsair 750W PSU, and my case is a Rosewill X3. I've got a 120 or 140 mm intake fan (not sure which) with two 120 mm exhausts on the top.

I don't know how comfortable I am with trying to bring it to 100 - I'm not trying to overclock here. I guess I'm also curious why my GPU stayed below 50. That used to NEVER happen, if Radeon's Catalyst Control Center software is to be believed. I used to have a 4850 in another build that would routinely be in the mid to high 60s if not 70s. Now it seems like the opposite here.

I was hoping the answer was that the i7s tend to run hot.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 07:35 AM

Is the cpu fan running at max speed?

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 09:31 AM

I'm pretty sure they're all running at full speed. I know on SpeedFan, all of the ones I can control (Speed01, 02, 03) are 100%.

CPU0 Fan is between 2480 and 2550 RPM depending on when I look at it. It seems to bounce between the two numbers, with CPU at 1 RPM less. Right now CPU0 Fan is 2482 and CPU is 2481.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 11:06 AM

Please reread my replies and forget the 100c!!!! That number was from some site other than intel. I said the main thing in burning in was to go about 4c over your max {WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS } and only for a few seconds . Also said DOUBLECHECK MAX TEMP RATING. Seems like plain english to me.Here is Tcase TEMP

Tcase: Technically this refers to the temperature that you can measure using a thermocouple embedded in the centre of the heat spreader, but this is only done in the factory by Intel or by users willing to drill their heat spreaders open to insert a thermocouple. Therefore Intel provided a diode between and below the cores with a reading calibrated by the BIOS which can be used instead. This reading can vary greatly when the BIOS version is changed, but will not necessarily change if the BIOS calibrations were not altered between versions.

Software supplied by motherboard manufacturers typically reads only this sensor, not the DTS. It is often labelled “CPU.” SpeedFan usually labels this as “CPU” as well.

I see you have speedfan, so if you want to "burn in" you would stop cpu stress test at 70c > 72c. And like I said there is always the built in protections {throttle down } if cpu gets too hot . I stand by everything I said before except the 100c.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 07:28 PM

Have you tried cleaning your computer for dust and what the ambient temperature when your gaming usually?

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:31 PM

If your heatsink is one of those side facing heatsinks blowing out the back, then I would also have one of the top mounted fans-preferably the one in front of the heatsink, blowing in, while the back top fan blowing out as well as the fan on the rear of the case being an exhaust. That may help.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:44 AM

CPU cooler setup in my system.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:52 AM

What I am suggesting is taking the top fan (like in killers photo) and reversing it so it is an intake, instead of an exhaust. Sometimes this can make a lot of difference depending on the case design and the CPU cooler used.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:01 AM

That's pretty similar to what I have. I neglected to mention my rear exhaust case fan too, so I have two 120's on top and one on the back, all basically aligned with the CPU/heatsink/CPU fan. I get really good airflow out of the side vent of my case where there's no fan in addition to the two exhausts.

Would you suggest making BOTH top fans intakes or just the one directly closest to the CPU itself?

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:44 AM

Yes, you can try switching the top to fans to intake and see how that goes.

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