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AMD 8-core CPU build / help me out


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#1 rhino1366

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 02:21 PM

Help me compose my future system on this Monster-CPU:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/amdfx/Pages/amdfx.aspx
...it's a brand new, fresh AMD Processor with 8 cores! An 8-core CPU!

.....I guess, logically, it would be close to this:

AMD 8-core CPU, with massive commercial cooler
MOBO = don't know (probably would be from GIGABYTE)
4/6/8 GB of fast RAM
Radeon HD 5850/70 (or should it be 68xx?.. I'm not sure, I've heard 58xx is a bit faster)
...and so on... plenty of storage, minimum two DVD+/-RWs with LightScribe or LabelFlash (or both, like LG suggests)
Though, what sort of a power supply I'll need? Any additional cooling?.. like Cooler Master chassis with nets to prevent internal dust?

Thanks in advance! :)

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:50 PM

It is eight cores in marketing speak, it is really four "Bulldozer modules" with two tightly linked cores in each. They are not wholly separate cores.

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK - Since you are going for a higher-end system, I suggest a full ATX case, which will allow for large CPU coolers, fans, and GPU's. $124

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX - This is a high-end gaming/enthusiast motherboard. This uses UEFI, unlike Gigabyte motherboards, which I do think is a dealbreaker given its ease of use. I have this motherboard and haven't had any issues. The ASUS M5A97 EVO AM3+ AMD 970 would be a great alternative if you don't think you will use more than one graphics card. $189

GPU: XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB - This is a higher-end 6800 series GPU. The Radeon 5870 is a little faster than this. $169 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

PSU: ENERMAX NAXN ENP550AWT 550W - This is enough for your build. $64

CPU: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz - This is not the highest end eight core CPU, it is one step down due to inventory issues. Aside from the lower clock and price, it is the same hardware. $219

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - This is a single stick of DDR3 memory, if you are doing video editing or keep many windows open, you can get more. $24

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB - This is a decent hard drive, the price is going up due to a shortage. $94

ODD: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - I have no idea why you need two, but here you are... $39 ($19 each)

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - You need this. $99

Aftermarket Cooler: XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W with ACK-I5361 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - This is an inexpensive, but effective, cooler. I have the non-Dark Knight version. $38 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

Grand Total: $1,068 (Before tax, shipping, and rebates)

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:24 PM

I'd strongly advise against making a Bulldozer (FX) based computer for anything other than video transcoding and similar workloads. For the most part they're slower for gaming than the othe rIntel and AMD choices. If you're constrained by your budget get a cheap quad-core and a better graphics card - an HD 6950 or GTX 560 Ti being about the best in price/performance terms right now.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:14 AM

Just wondering what is your budget?

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

The FX-8120 will meet your needs, however, Philo is right, the Bulldozer design works best with highly parallel or threaded programs, like video encoding. Outside of that, there are less expensive CPU's, mainly AMD's Phenom II X6, which will function just as well. If you go for the Phenom II X6 route, you can use the money to get a Radeon 6950 which is roughly as powerful as a GTX 570.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 09:47 AM

IMO...if you don't game, why bother?

I'm saying...I hope that this is a gaming rig :).

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 07:16 AM

Hey guys, thanks for help...

It's just an enthusiastic approach; I'm not saying I have the money for all that, just to dream of future rig a bit.

I agree, on that that Phenom II X4 would be great for gaming...

Actually, Phenom II X4 + HD 5850/70 = super-duper fine performance will be.

As for now - upgrading my dual-core Athlon II to a quad-core Athlon II + increasing my 2GB RAM to 2x2 - 4GB RAM = would result in a much better performance. It's like, less than 4 cores (Athlon on Phenom) - experience slowdowns in games.

Pace07, very nice chassis you've recommended. Though, I'm use to middle-towers.. anyway. And, as for mobos, I'm really uninformed here.. so I'd stick to your advice here.

P.S. My GA-MA78GM-US2H rev. 1.0 should be able to handle Phenom II X4 onboard; there are only 5 "power blocks for CPU", but still on box and at site - there are supporting stickers. :)

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 07:31 AM

I would consider super duper performance for 6850/6870.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:17 PM

The reason I suggested full ATX towers is due to space. There is plenty of space to work in with those, plenty of space for fans, and plenty of space for higher end graphics cards. The Radeon 5850 and the 6850 are actually quite similar performance wise.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 11:53 AM

Yeah... but haven't you guys heard that 58xx is greater by power than 68xx?

Pace07, the most valuable for me in chassis, currently, is a dust resistance. My current rig is all dusty etc... it's not Cooler Master. xD

Edit:

ATI's products can be easely measured by power such way:

My current graphics card -- HD 5750, has 720 Stream Processors
HD 5770 has 800 Stream Processors
HD 5850 has 1440 Stream Processors (doubled towards the 57xx)
HD 5870 has 1600 of 'em ... yummy xD

Edited by rhino1366, 15 November 2011 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 15 November 2011 - 01:09 PM

AMD's card performance cannot be easily measured by stream processors alone, clocks and memory also have a bearing. I find it easier to just look at the model numbers. ATI was acquired by AMD years ago and no longer exists as a brand. This rebranding began with the Radeon 6000 series, the model numbers were also pushed higher. Previously, the Radeon x8xx series represented the high-end, now, it is the x9xx.

You may be able to get case dust protectors but many of them restrict airflow, resulting in higher internal temperatures. I found this website interesting in regards to dust.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:09 PM

Ok, thnx. :)

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:14 PM

You can get filter kits like this which is for my computer.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:36 PM

...which is for my computer.


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Posted 15 November 2011 - 11:35 PM

As meaning those filter kits are used for my case but you can purchase filter kits like the but for your case.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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