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Burner problem or disc problem


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#1 OvenMaster

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:31 AM

System specs:

ASRock 880GM-LE motherboard
Athlon II X4 640 CPU
2x2GB Kingston DDR3-1333 RAM
Integrated Radeon HD4250 video
Diamond Xtreme 5.1 PCI audio
WD SATA 160GB HD
Seagate SATA 1TB HD
Seagate IDE 320GB HD
2x Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD combo burners
Antec EarthWatts 430D PSU
Microsoft Intellimouse 3000
XP Home SP3 fully patched



For four years, I used two Pioneer DVR-115DBK DVD combo burners with a variety of different-branded blank media (HP, Philips, TDK, Memorex, Maxell, Imation) and never had a problem when the discs needed to be read in other machines.

The Pioneers got fried by a dying power supply, so I replaced them with two Asus DRW-24B1ST burners. Now when I burn CD-Rs from the same spindles of blank CD-Rs as before, my home stereo Marantz CD player has playback problems: sometimes it won't see the TOC and will return an error message, sometimes it will stop playing, sometimes it will skip entire tracks. The Marantz player's laser is new as of spring 2011. It will play CD-Rs made from the same spindles that were burnt with the Pioneer burners just fine.

It's as if both Asus burners are weak or underpowered when burning CD-Rs.

Any advice here? Much appreciated.

Edited by OvenMaster, 03 November 2011 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:33 PM

Try burning on lower speed and on known CD brands you know worked well for you.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:45 PM

Try burning on lower speed and on known CD brands you know worked well for you.

I tried burns on all the CD-R burn speeds that the Asus burners offer: 16x, 24x, 32x, 48x.

I tried blank CD-Rs from the same spindles of discs which worked well with the Pioneer burners: TDK, HP, Memorex. All seem to really be rebranded CMC discs.

What I essentially did was stay with the same blank discs, but switched to different burners partway through the stack.
The Pioneers consistently delivered great CD-Rs, the Asus burners deliver CD-Rs that are very difficult to read on a standalone CD player.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:35 AM

Are you sure they don't do 8X? Try a program like Nero Burning ROM.

Edited by ReviverSoft, 04 November 2011 - 08:35 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:56 AM

Yes, sometimes another media burning software would solve this problem.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

The burning softwares I've tried are Nero Burning ROM Ultra Suite 6, ImgBurn, CDBurnerXP and DeepBurner Free.
The lowest CD-R burn speed allowed by the drives is 16x.
Even when choosing 16x in ImgBurn, the drives ignored my choice:

I 10:42:18 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 2,823 KB/s (16x)
I 10:42:18 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 10:42:19 Writing LeadIn...
I 10:42:37 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 333567)
I 10:42:37 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 333567)
I 10:44:47 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:44:56 Exporting Graph Data...
I 10:44:57 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ASUS_DRW-24B1ST_a_1.04_FRIDAY-NOVEMBER-04-2011_10-42_AM_97m26s66f_16x.ibg
I 10:44:57 Export Successfully Completed!
I 10:44:57 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:38
I 10:44:57 Average Write Rate: 5,171 KB/s (34.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 7,051 KB/s (47.0x)

It should have taken more like 7:30 than 2:38 to burn 683MB at 16x.

I've decided to RMA the Asus burners for refund, and get a pair of Samsungs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151243
The manual for the Samsung drives specifically mention CMC brand discs for CD-R burns.

Edited by OvenMaster, 04 November 2011 - 11:43 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:48 PM

Well, I've been using the Samsungs for two weeks now.
The CD-R burn results are better than the Asus burners, but still not as good as the Pioneers.
Ah, well. I'll keep the Samsungs... it's too bad Pioneer farmed out their drives after 2009... otherwise I'd have bought some again.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:16 PM

try to avoid buying from big companies that make too many products. they just care that it works not that it works good. spend your money on a plextor if you want higher quality.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 10:22 AM

From what I've read, Plextor now farms out their drives to... Lite-On.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:18 PM

So far the best BluRay burner I have is the Pioneer Bough this year, much better than the LG I tried before. I have used Liteon for burning DVDs & CDs for years. The LiteOn I use and used in my brothers build are also good burners.

I do not know if I would use Samsung Optical drives. I would and do use their SSD drives.

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