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#1 tripleblack

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:43 PM

Win XP Home boots slow the last couple months. Perform routine maintenance daily. Only have 33 processes running at startup, before starting any apps. Thinking if it's OK to eliminate any recent XP (Microsoft) Updates as the culprit. What do you recommend?


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:02 PM

1) Define "slow boot" - how long are we talking about?

2) If you want to try something, you can perform a selective startup:
Open msconfig and on the General tab choose "selective startup" (uncheck all three items) and reboot. Does the problem still occur? If not, start adding items back to msconfig one or two at a time, rebooting after each change, until the problem reappears and you'll have identified the offending process. This is clearly a time consuming procedure, but it is the best way to determine if some process loading with the system is the cause of your problem.
After you've isolated the cause, do not use msconfig to permanently disable the process. Instead, if it is a service go to START - RUN and type: services.msc (then press enter) and disable the service OR, if it a program, you can download & run a simple app such as Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel (http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml) to enable, disable, or otherwise manage startup programs.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:36 PM

150 seconds until the red HDD LED calms down (stops glowing continuously).

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:58 PM

"Only have 33 processes running at startup"
That might have something to do with it as well.

When was the last time you checked the system for viruses and malware?
What programs did you use?

How many programs are listed in the system tray on the lower right by the clock and what are they?
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 07:24 AM

"Only have 33 processes running at startup"
That might have something to do with it as well.

When was the last time you checked the system for viruses and malware?
What programs did you use?

How many programs are listed in the system tray on the lower right by the clock and what are they?


Is 33 a lot? I had as many as 44 before I cut many of them out using "services" and msconfig.

4 programs in systray: ATI console (video card); HP Deskjet console (printer maintenance); AVAST Antivirus; speaker volume control. Default system clock

Every Monday I backup my HDD to an external using Synch Toy; Tuesday I run Eusing Registry cleaner; Wednesday AVAST system scan for viruses; Thurs download updates for Spyware Blaster; Fri update Malware Bytes and run a scan.

Edited by tripleblack, 30 October 2011 - 07:27 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2011 - 07:32 AM

1) Two and a half minutes is not a big deal.

2) DO NOT use msconfig to manage startup items. As my first post suggests, download & run a simple app such as Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel (http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml) to enable, disable, or otherwise manage startup programs.

3) Registry cleaners CAUSE problems, they do not cure them. I'm guessing part of the reason you are experiencing issues is because you are using a registry cleaner.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:40 AM

The BC stance re registry cleaners:

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:
  • Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

    The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.
  • Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.
  • Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.
  • Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.
  • The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.
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