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#1 tramond

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 08:44 PM

My computer restarts itself and I get this error. The HJT log was ' clean ' so I don't know what to do. I think its the video card.

Driver_IRQL_Not_Less_Or_Equal.
STOP: 0x0000008E ( 0xC0000005, 0x00000055, 0xB91B44424, 0x00000000)

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 08:52 PM

Does your motherboard have an onboard video card?
Have you installed a seperate video card and if so have you disabled the onboard video?

This may relate to nvidea drivers that may need to be updated or bad ram.

The error message may also occur when a program references an incorrect memory address, causing your computer to crash.

Do you have SP2 installed?

To resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for Microsoft Windows XP.

A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem that is described above. Only apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. If you are not severely affected by this problem, Microsoft recommends that you obtain the latest Windows XP service pack that contains this hotfix.
Random "0x0000008E" Error Message on a Blue Screen in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;827663

Edited by Enthusiast, 22 January 2006 - 08:58 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2006 - 08:56 PM

No onboard, unfortunately. And its not the ram. I just upgraded to 512.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:17 AM

When you said you just "Upgraded" your ram, what exactly do you mean?

Did you add a 256 stick to make it 512?

If so, remove the stick you added and see if the problem resolves.

Use one stick, then the other -

What happens?

Is SP2 installed and if so when did you install it? (If it isn't installed you may need to install it)

Have you looked in the device manager and are there any yellow exclamation points?

Have you updated the NVidea drivers?

Edited by Enthusiast, 23 January 2006 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted 23 January 2006 - 11:14 AM

Link for an explanation of the 0x8e STOP error:
http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.php#0x8e

It's most likely:
1) Bad Hardware
2) Incompatible hardware
3) Bad/corrupted drivers

Were there any filenames mentioned along with the error message?
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 11:36 AM

Link for an explanation of the 0x8e STOP error:
http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.php#0x8e

It's most likely:
1) Bad Hardware
2) Incompatible hardware
3) Bad/corrupted drivers

Were there any filenames mentioned along with the error message?
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:37 PM

Link for an explanation of the 0x8e STOP error:
http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.php#0x8e

It's most likely:
1) Bad Hardware
2) Incompatible hardware
3) Bad/corrupted drivers

Were there any filenames mentioned along with the error message?

no filenames



and as far as RAM i added a new stick so = 512
and that was after i had been having this problem

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 08:44 AM

Try running one of these free memory test utilities (they install themselves on onto a bootable floppy). Run the test for at least 2 hours (overnight is better):

http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.memtest86.com/

You can also download a bootable floppy from here: http://www.bootdisk.com (try the one for Win98SE) and see if it boots to the DOS prompt. If it does boot, try running the command chkdsk on the disk to see if there are any errors.

Also, you could borrow or buy a power supply tester (or test the system with another power supply.


If you're able to get into Windows - here's some more that you can try:

1) Download and install this free program: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php Once it's installed, click on the SMART tab and check the status of your hard drive.

2) You can generally find the Blue Screen (BSOD) error in a couple of other places on your computer:

a) In the System category of Event Viewer
:thumbsup: In a .dmp file on your hard drive.

This holds true as long as you haven't disabled "Write errors to Event log" in the depths of Control Panel.

First, go to Start...Run... and type in "eventvwr.msc" (without the quotes) and press Enter.

Left click once on the word "System" in the left hand pane - then check the right hand pane for errors that occurred about the time of the BSOD. Right click on the error and select "Properties". What you're looking for is information that has numbers similar to this: 0x0000007b Once you find it, copy down all the numbers and any filenames that may be showing and post them here.

The other method involves searching your hard drive for files that end in .dmp. If you find them, here's a link on how to open them for analysis: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35246

While this may look complicated - it's actually quite easy to run the program. If you do choose to run the program, be sure to type "!analyse -v" (without the qoutes) in the box at the bottom of the screen after the debugger runs for the first time - then just copy all that informantion here and we can work out a fix.

Edited by usasma, 26 January 2006 - 08:46 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 06:45 PM

Probably caused by : nv4_mini.sys ( nv4_mini+52e58 )



i did a search for the file, it came up in the windows\drivers folder.
i've concluded that it IS the video card. (nVidia btw.)

err..not quite.


BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 0, ba5c753c, 0}

Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!EXLATEOBJ::bInitXlateObj+bb )

Edited by tramond, 26 January 2006 - 06:49 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:09 PM

OK - the filename isn't the source of the error - it's where the error occurred. For example, if a program addresses your video card in a bad way - it'll cause an error in the video driver (the nv4... file). The same goes for the win32k.sys error. (But, FWIW, when there's an error with an nVidia driver I ALWAYS update the driver. The reason for this is that the drivers seem to get corrupted fairly easily by rogue programs - and updating them gets rid of the corruption).

So, here's what we do (based on this link (which is the referral link for your last error message): http://www.osronline.com/ddkx/ddtools/bccodes_59k7.htm )

First, make sure that all of your hardware and software is on the Windows Hardware Compatiblity List ( http://testedproducts.windowsmarketplace.com/ ). This is a long list, and there is a lot of stuff that's not on it. My general recommendation is to not bother with any major, brand name hardware that you have. Concentrate on the off-the-wall stuff that you might have. Your hardware not being on the list doesn't mean it won't work - it just means that Microsoft won't guarantee it.

Next, update your video driver by going to the nVidia driver site: http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp and select the appropriate WHQL certified driver for your video card (WHQL is needed during troubleshooting because it's been certified by Microsoft to work with Windows). The by-the-book solution is to disable the driver to see if this fixes the problem (and stops the BSOD's) - but I find that updating it usually fixes it.

We can work on other drivers as clues present themselves.

Do you have any 3rd party remote control software on your system? If so, please remove it during the troubleshooting. Some of these programs are known to cause problems with win32k.sys (and if they're video remote controls they may also affect your video drivers).

The above are the most likely causes of this problem. But, here's some more things to check - just in case:

Make sure that you have plenty of free hard disk space (I recommend at least 15%).

Test your memory using one of these free, floppy-based memory testers (run it for at least 2 hours - but overnight is better):

http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.memtest86.com/

Also, check in your BIOS to ensure that any BIOS or video cacheing or shadowing is disabled.

Let us know how this works out!

Edited by usasma, 27 January 2006 - 03:10 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 01:43 PM

Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.


how? ^^^

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:19 PM

new error! Yay!


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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:43 PM

Cpu Temperature - 154
System Temp - 125

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 10:41 AM

Here's a link to the 0xBE error: http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.php#0xbe

Commonly occurs after installing a faulty device driver, system service, or firmware.


Have you done any of that recently?

Since the error is in a system file, it's likely that it's a poorly designed driver that caused this (although there are other reasons also).

Without more specific information - you're gonna have to try updating all of your hardware drivers (by first removing them, then reinstalling the latest available version).

Did you update the video drivers?
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Posted 09 February 2006 - 06:32 PM

yeah, i updated the video card drivers.




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