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PLEASE HELP: Cheap computer no PCI slot


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#1 redphive

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 03:18 AM

I purchased a new Compaq Presario CQ5700Y from BestBuy and it runs great!

I went out to upgrade the graphics card and bought a PCI Nvidia 1GB GeForce.

I was so happy! :clapping:

Then I got home and opened my computer :blink:

NO PCI SLOT!

So what is my recourse if any? Can I buy an adapter? An external one? Is there anyway I can have a local computer person install a PCI slot? Is there any hope for me and my machine!?

Many thanks and blessings to any who can help! :thumbsup:

Also side note, would this computer run the graphics card OK even with the PCI slot, i.e. is power and processor good enough? From what I can tell on required specs I think so but not 100% certain. Thx!

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:37 AM

You can not install a PCI-E slot. You can not upgrade the graphics card in this computer. You will have to return the graphics card back to BestBuy.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:58 AM

Thanks Killer! I now know that I do not have a 16x slot and I don't think I can put one in. That said: Do you think I will have power issues with this computer? I have an ADI Radion 3000 graphics card that is built in with the computer I purchased but I don't know where it is? Or how to replace it. So I don't have a 16x slot but I do have two of these smaller ones that are about a inch long? Can I plug a graphics card into them? Thanks again?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:58 AM

Your graphics card is built in to the motherboards chipset redphive. You will not be able to see it and it is not removable, You can plug your monitor in the 15pin blue VGA connection or the 24 pin grey\white DVI connection and you should be fine.

You have 2 PCIe x1 slots which are used for NICs and Modems etc. you can not plug a graphics card into them. As Killer said apologise to seller and ask for a refund on your PCI card, and use your built in one.

You should have no power issues at present with your computer unless yo add more hardware.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:25 AM

GooeyPC.com will save you from mistakes like this! :thumbsup:

We don't have proprietary boxed computer specs in our database, and I'm not sure we intend to either - since the goal is to encourage people to take on the custom build. However, when the next release of the site is deployed, you will be able to "navigate" through the components of a computer and see what is required to make a complete system. It may have prompted you to open the Compaq prior to purchasing anything. :wink:

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:34 AM

The ATI Radeon 3000 isn't to bad but not good for gaming. If your looking for a better graphics card then this would work but you will need to buy a new power supply.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:29 AM

Thanks again to everyone. Especially Killer again! Man you are awesome. OK and thanks for the specific product suggestion :clapping:

My last question is I have the option to just get another computer (trade in from Best Buy) an Acer that has the right PCI slot for my graphics card. Or just return the graphics card I have and buy graphics card you suggest. I have heard Acers are not as reliable as the Compaq that I have. I must say the Compaq has been very stable. BUT I will need as you point out to purchase a new power supply, perhaps I would need new power supply for the Acer as well (I can get you the specs on the Acer if you like) ... Can you send me a link to a cheap power supply option for my COmpaq? I would like to know how much that is going to cost. Thanks again :thumbup2:

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

They do actually make video cards that will fit in a pci express x1 slot, but last I checked only bare bottom ones that only showed marginal improvement over integrated chips. Ill see if I can locate a few online when I get off work tonight.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:40 PM

Please specify the full Acer model. Most OEM computers has a low wattage power supply which limits the choice of a graphics card.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:53 PM

This is probably the best your going to find that will fit inside your computer, though killer is right-you need at least a 400 watt or greater PSU to power this and most others that is compatible with your computer.

Edited by the_patriot11, 14 September 2011 - 09:53 PM.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:31 PM

Everyone thanks again! Patriot, thanks so much for the research and link. I think I will buy this but see below question. Killer good points, a new power supply is a must and i just bought a 400 so good to go there :thumbsup:

Last question: For games I should have bought a different machine. I bought it for standard work from home utility and then got into games later, I play new RTS games and my question now is thus: Is that PCI x1 graphics card recommended above going to boost my graphics a ton? ... right now I think I have a 250k graphics card so going up to 1g it should be markedly improved yes? Or is the x1 factor going to make it not worth purchasing for games? Tough thing is with this being the only port I have for a graphics card I have no other choice but to buy it ... or a whole new machine. Thanks~! :busy:

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 12:30 AM

There will be a boost in games when getting that graphics card.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:02 AM

There should be a boost, even in overall performance since you won't be using shared memory, but not as much as if you had a x16 lane

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:17 AM

This card can play BFBC2 on medium settings, so it should be able run your games.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 12:09 PM

Thanks again guys, Card should be here in a few days. Installing the new powersupply today. I'll update in a few if you guys want me to, to let you know how it goes, thanks again to each and everyone of you! :clapping:




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