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#1 Rachel1786

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:56 PM

I've decided that instead of replacing my computer I'm just going to upgrade it. I've already ordered 3GB more Ram(since I currently only have .99GB)That will give me the max of 4GB for my computer. My computer is a gateway GM5259E(specs can be seen here http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/1013953/1013953sp2.shtml) I'm just not sure what kind of graphics card I should get. I don't want to spend more then 100(less would be better tho). I don't play games often but I do have sims 3 that I would like to be able to run. Right now when I try to play sims 3 it's very slow to load, lags and eventually crashes, I even have trouble with sims 2. My power supply is only 300W(and I see most cards need 450W PS) so I will probably need to update that as well. I'm trying to do this as inexpensively as possible, I could buy a new tower for about 300 so I'd like to keep it under that. I just don't want to go through the hassle of re-downloading all my programs.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 07:40 PM

Assuming you haven't changed the graphics card on that computer, you are using an integrated Intel graphics card, which is bad for gaming. Additionally, it uses a "300 Watt Power Supply uATX/BTX Non-PFC" power supply. This appears to be a non-standard power supply in terms of size. The motherboard and case are also non-standard as uBTX. This is one of the problems with buying low-end off-the-self machines. Parts are often not standard making upgrades difficult.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:04 PM

I haven't changed anything on the computer yet. Is it possible for me to upgrade the graphics card and power supply if needed? I would have preferred a better computer but it was a gift a few years ago, even better it was a refurb lol. I also wish it had a bigger hard drive. The main problem is that I have photoshop CS3 on my current computer but I don't have the disk so if I get a new computer I'll probably loose the program, Most of the other programs I could easily replace.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 09:48 PM

You're eventually going to have to reinstall Photoshop CS3 since your hard drive will fail some day. Does Adobe have CS3 available for download from their site? Can you use your product activation code on a demo version to unlock the full version? I would seriously contact Adobe and ask if this is possible. That said, this thread seems to indicate that a Gateway computer taking a "300 Watt Power Supply uATX/BTX Non-PFC" may take an ATX power supply, but the uATX part means micro-ATX so I'm not entirely sure. If you want to try and see, the CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 is inexpensive. If you buy that from Newegg and it won't fit and you have to send it back, Newegg will charge a restocking fee. Amazon has it here and they don't charge a restocking fee, they just take the cost of sending it back out of your refund. If it fits and you still want to go ahead with the upgrade, the HIS H657H1G Radeon HD 6570 1GB will offer a performance increase. I hesitate to suggest a larger card, the uBTX thing raises a whole set of uncertainties with case size. The "u" in uBTX is for micro, but if that power supply can be used, it may take standard ATX graphics cards, but I, and many people here, are unfamiliar with BTX since it is rarely used.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:12 AM

KINGWIN ABT-650MM 650W - This power supply is a BTX, i couldn't find any nicer BTX power supply, so this one is decent with 2 12V rails producing 46 amps together.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:38 PM

I would see if the ATX power supply works before going to a BTX model. That Kingwin power supply isn't that good with a low efficiency rating of 72%. According to Gateway's site, your computers dimensions are (H × W × D) 15.4 × 7.3 × 17.9 inches, that should take a standard sized graphics card.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:44 PM

Looks like the size of a mid-atx case.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:37 PM

A good inside picture.... http://support.gateway.com/s/pc/R/1009149/1009149iv.shtml Looks like an ATX P.S. will fit

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:57 PM

Can't really tell by the photo but it looks like it will fit.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:26 PM

It should fit, but if you have any doubts, get it from Amazon where there is no restocking fee.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:03 PM

The picture shows it to be the same height and almost the same length as the two drive bay across from it which is the dimensions of an ATX PS..... an ATX PS is 3 9/16" H, 5 1/2" L and 5 7/8" deep.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 08:09 PM

Thanks guys, I had no idea there were so many different types of power supplies. Too bad I did know that on sunday when I ordered a power supply for my husbands computer, which now looks like it may not fit :o installing it also looks a bit above my comfort level, off to make a new post about his power supply lol

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:40 AM

And i would assume you ordered a ATX size power supply?

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