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Best cheap parts for a future build?


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#1 Jayson201

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:36 PM

I don't want to spend more than 60 bucks on a power supply, and I'd like it to have enough watts for a probable future upgrade.

I've been searching all over Newegg for the cheapest, most reliable parts, to attempt to keep the price down so my dad isn't so "Meh" when he buys the stuff. (I just gotta up my grades once school starts...)

Basically my build is the exact opposite of what I wanted it to be. I'm definitely some form of ignorant, compared to you wonderful people, but I'm not so ignorant that I didn't try my best not to sacrifice too much power in order to keep the price low. I've found a power supply that should work, according to its wattage AND the reviews.

Here's what I've got so far.


Case: Rosewill R-101-P-BK Micro ATX Midtower
(According to the reviews, its shaped for the regular ATX sized Power Supplies)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

Motherboard: MSI NF725GM-P43 AM3 NVIDIA GeForce 7025 & nForce 630a Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130594

Wireless card: Rosewill RNX-N300X IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166051

Graphics Card: PowerColor AX5570 1GBD3-H Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131342

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory
(If you know of a better set for equal or lower price, That'd be great, thanks :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148418

Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 260 Regor 3.2GHz
(Yea...I went with AMD Strictly to save $$$)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873


I plan on adding a case fan, I think the case I chose supports one or two more. I think I can salvage one from my dad's old desktop, it's not used, ever. I'm also going to be salvaging the optical drive, a DVD drive.

As we can see, I've chosen a 500 watt PSU, it costs 60 bucks and the reviews are mostly good. I want to know if theres a cheaper PSU with equal or better ratings and equal or better wattage. I'm shopping Newegg, because thats the only online store my dad'll trust. Please and thnks :)

Also, If you don't mind, could you double check each items compatibility with the motherboard I chose, and if you could show me a cheaper or equal priced, better alternative, I'd really appreciate a second opinion. Thank you :)

You guy's are the greatest ;) Mainly TG, because it looks like he waits for me to post just so he can help me, He's a wonderful guy :)

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:39 PM

I just got the asus M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3. it's already compatible with the bulldozer cpu coming out hopefully by the end of the year and has 8x crossfire, along with sata 3 and usb.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:48 PM

I just got the asus M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3. it's already compatible with the bulldozer cpu coming out hopefully by the end of the year and has 8x crossfire, along with sata 3 and usb.



Right, I'd love that but I'm trying to keep it all below $500 and I still have to add a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and probably a set of speakers to the list. That 500 cap includes shipping, Sadly. I might be able to go slightly over, but too much is too much.

How are the onboard graphics, I might still be able to cut a graphics card out of the picture to make up for the price difference, even though I don't want to.

Nevermind on that, recent reviews say its unreliable, I'd have to wait for some better reviews.

Bedtime for me, will be back on tomorrow ASAP. Anybody who reads, please, Feel free to add your 2 cents :)

Edited by Jayson201, 15 August 2011 - 11:56 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:10 AM

RAM: Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $24 - Cheaper by $6 and will leave you a option to upgrade to 8GB of ram in the future.

Motherboard: ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 AMD 880G - $55 - This board has a newer chipset then the one you chose and it has better onboard graphics. If you do not plan to play any 3D games then onboard should be fine. Also it is cheaper by $5.

Power Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W - $60 - Corsair makes some solid and quality power supply. You could get use a low end graphics card with this power supply

Edited by killerx525, 16 August 2011 - 01:12 AM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 11:22 AM

You also are going to spend money for an O/S, if you intend to run Windows.

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 11:54 AM

Thanks for reminding me Hamluis, I'm covered on that though ;)

Killer, I will consider that motherboard, as the only bad reviews are from months ago. The Memory I'll definitely take up, and I'll have to think about that PSU, it's got a recent review saying it died on four hours.

What I want to know, How often do MOBO Manufacturers ACTUALLY put out a bad motherboard, vs the customers not grounding themselves before touching it and screwing the board? Wouldn't quality checks at the MOBO manufacturers notice they're bad? I understand letting one or 2 slip through at a time but whole batches of motherboards is crazy.

Thanks again guys :)

Anybody else wanna add their 2 cents? It'd be awesome.

Edited by Jayson201, 16 August 2011 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 03:52 PM

If you're gaming, you're SOL with that budget. If you want to upgrade your system at a later date, you may need to spend extra for higher-end motherboards. Have you considered an AMD APU-based system?

Motherboard: ASRock A75M-HVS FM1 AMD A75 - This is a cheap FM1 APU motherboard. AMD's APU's are essentially Phenom II CPU's with Radeon GPU shaders in them. This makes the CPU rather powerful with graphics while still offering good CPU speeds. It gets good reviews, however, with Newegg and any other retailer, take reviews with a very large grain of salt. $69

CPU: AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz - This is a quad core Phenom II X4 at 2.9GHz with a Radeon 6550 GPU. If you're really pressed for money, the AMD A6-3650 Llano 2.6GHz is still decent. $139

RAM: CORSAIR 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - You only need one, but if you game, get two. $22

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 04:46 PM

The APU seems to be practical. 4GB of ram is enough for gaming.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 06:02 PM

If you're gaming, you're SOL with that budget. If you want to upgrade your system at a later date, you may need to spend extra for higher-end motherboards. Have you considered an AMD APU-based system?

CPU: AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz - This is a quad core Phenom II X4 at 2.9GHz with a Radeon 6550 GPU. If you're really pressed for money, the AMD A6-3650 Llano 2.6GHz is still decent. $139



With that CPU's integrated graphics, does that mean I can cut the GPU I chose out of the picture?

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 07:44 PM

Yes, that is one of the benefits of that CPU, it is a good performer and, since the Radeon GPU is integrated on the CPU itself, it gets better performance than systems with the integrated graphics on the motherboard. If you're really curious about the architecture of this CPU, and it is a first for AMD, I suggest you look up AMD A8 online. The GPU on that CPU can handle many games rather well, too. Nothing is perfect, however. Mainly, though it shares the CPU side with the architecture of a Phenom II, it is still a locked CPU. This is a problem if you are overclocking, otherwise, it isn't an issue. It also uses the older Phenom II CPU architecture, which doesn't have Turbo Core, but that isn't too bad unless you are data crunching which, if you were going to be doing this, would require a much larger budget. I think this is a viable option for your build.

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 07:56 PM

The higher the processor model is the intergrated graphics would be better.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 09:02 PM

You guys are awesome :) My only concern is whether a 500 watt Power Supply is enough, because that processor uses 100 watts. I'm 90% sure that 500 is enough, but It's my first time even thinking about this all.

BTW, I'm pretty sure the A8-3850 at 2.6 GHz is good enough considering it's quad core, and much later on (Years maybe.) I'll be doing another build, but with Intel, and with more money. Thank you all again. :D


Anybody else who want's to jump in, please do :) This is the only educational thing I've ever done that's entertaining at all (I am learning.)

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:24 PM

The power supply is good enough, so nothing to worry about.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:43 PM

The power supply is good enough, so nothing to worry about.



Thank you good sir :) You guys saved me on this one. That motherboards guaranteed to work, unless I somehow fry it with static, correct?

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:28 AM

Yep, unless the motherboard is already defective which is a low chance but you should be good, remember to discharge yourself before starting.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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