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Talk About Paranoia!


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#1 yano

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:15 PM

[quote name='http://www.rpi-polymath.com/ducttape/RFIDWallet.php']With the proliferation of RFID devices and related privacy concerns, it seemed due time to create the RFID Blocking Duct Tape Wallet. There are many ways to prevent Radio Frequency ID tags from being transmitted from devices. I often use my work badge and school ID which both contain RFID tags. With drivers licenses, credit cards, and cash now beginning to contain RFID tags, why not create a protective wallet.

RFID chips now exist in:
  • Chase's Blink Credit Card
  • Mastercard PayPass Credit Card
  • United States Passport
  • Euro Bank Notes
    etc...
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So who here wants to help me in building my aluminum wallet, hat, and eventually house? :thumbsup:

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:17 PM

I'm with ya brother. Lets not waste any time.

Be afraid very afraid. :thumbsup:
They are in many everyday products too!
When I find the link I will post it.

Edited by Scarlett, 16 January 2006 - 11:18 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:24 PM

I'm starting an aluminum cult. Scarlett you in? :thumbsup:

Edited by yano, 16 January 2006 - 11:24 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:27 PM

OMG Yes Yano sign me up! :thumbsup:

Im only half joking here.

Edited by Scarlett, 16 January 2006 - 11:28 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:31 PM

Of course! :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 02:50 PM

...scuse me..can I be in your gang..(still talking about Mel Gibson arent you?)....tee hee.. :thumbsup: :flowers:
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 02:56 PM

Yes. Anyone is welcome. As long as you don't wear suits and walk around with badges or are short and have a mild discolor in skin (ie: green). :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 05:50 PM

RFID is risky in credit cards I would think. I read you can buy the scanners and maybe if you walked close enough you could take money from one of those paypass cards what do you think?


I found a RFID tag on a UPC label and it was never stuck on anything. I got it at the house here.

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 08:03 PM

This is when tin-foil becomes your friend.......

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 10:16 AM

:inlove: ..could we get tin foil in colours ..cos..im girly and you know..have to have matching.....cant wait for my club badge now..hope its got fluffy bits on it!! :thumbsup: :flowers: :trumpet:
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 10:32 AM

They have Zombie RFTD tags :thumbsup:

Security, privacy and ethics problems with RFID

The following problems with RFID tags and readers have been reported.
The contents of an RFID tag can be read after the item leaves the supply chain
An RFID tag cannot tell the difference between one reader and another. RFID scanners are very portable; RFID tags can be read from a distance, from a few inches to a few yards. This allows anyone to see the contents of your purse or pocket as you walk down the street. Some tags can be turned off when the item has left the supply chain; see zombie RFID tags.

What Are Zombie RFID Tags?
One of the main concerns with RFID tags is that their contents can be read by anyone with an appropriately equipped scanner - even after you take it out of the store.

One technology that has been suggested is a zombie RFID tag, a tag that can be temporarily deactivated when it leaves the store. The process would work like this: you bring your purchase up to the register, the RFID scanner reads the item, you pay for it and as you leave the store, you pass a special device that sends a signal to the RFID tag to "die." That is, it is no longer readable.

The "zombie" element comes in when you bring an item back to the store. A special device especially made for that kind of tag "re-animates" the RFID tag, allowing the item to reenter the supply chain.



RFID tags are difficult to remove
RFID tags are difficult to for consumers to remove; some are very small (less than a half-millimeter square, and as thin as a sheet of paper) - others may be hidden or embedded inside a product where consumers cannot see them. New technologies allow RFID tags to be "printed" right on a product and may not be removable at all (see Printing RFID Tags With Magic Ink).

RFID tags can be read without your knowledge
Since the tags can be read without being swiped or obviously scanned (as is the case with magnetic strips or barcodes), anyone with an RFID tag reader can read the tags embedded in your clothes and other consumer products without your knowledge. For example, you could be scanned before you enter the store, just to see what you are carrying. You might then be approached by a clerk who knows what you have in your backpack or purse, and can suggest accessories or other items.

RFID tags can be read a greater distances with a high-gain antenna
For various reasons, RFID reader/tag systems are designed so that distance between the tag and the reader is kept to a minimum (see the material on tag collision above). However, a high-gain antenna can be used to read the tags from much further away, leading to privacy problems.

RFID tags with unique serial numbers could be linked to an individual credit card number
At present, the Universal Product Code (UPC) implemented with barcodes allows each product sold in a store to have a unique number that identifies that product. Work is proceeding on a global system of product identification that would allow each individual item to have its own number. When the item is scanned for purchase and is paid for, the RFID tag number for a particular item can be associated with a credit card number.
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 11:25 AM

Well I know you can fry them by putting them in the microwave...
So in the future I guess we will have to microwave everything we get from walmart?

PS this is kinda like the one I have found:
http://www.rsasecurity.com/images_new/rfid.gif

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 12:03 PM

:thumbsup: careful CGM3 they might come for that and you. And they may have rayguns :flowers: :trumpet:
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 06:29 PM

Well I know you can fry them by putting them in the microwave...
So in the future I guess we will have to microwave everything we get from walmart?

PS this is kinda like the one I have found:
http://www.rsasecurity.com/images_new/rfid.gif

Yes if you take a US $20 bill or higher deomination, and put it in the microwave for like 5 seconds. Something will pop and you'll see a burnt hole somewhere located on the face. (on the $20 I think it's Jackson's right eye.)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904rfidtagsexplode.html

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 11:52 PM

This is amazing. Its starting to sound like the X-Files. :thumbsup:

But wouldnt tracking our money be against some sort of privacy right or something? I doubt the thing is used only for telling how much money is in your wallet, probly more along the lines of the issue of someone being able to track you with your cell phone using GPS.

Cell phone tracking: http://www.asginvestigations.com/pi-stories/index.php?p=117

And for all of you with laser printers: http://www.subterrain.net/drupal/us-govern...-laser-printers or http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1025-08.htm

Dont try sticking either of those in the microwave tho!! :flowers: :trumpet:

I mean whats next? The government makes a deal with McDonalds and the hamburger you bought yesterday could be used to track you? Its freakin insane.




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