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#1 Rabbuk

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 11:17 PM

Hey
As i said i bought an Amd Athlon Xp 3000+ but it seems to be underclocking itself to about 1.3 ghz and it says it should run aroun 2.18-2.2 and im confused. When i ran an everest system analysis it says that its a AMD athlon 1700+. It said on the box and on the chip itself that it was a 3000+. I need some help thanks.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 01:48 AM

What's the FSB set to in BIOS? Most likely your motherboard isn't capable of supporting your CPU at its rated frequency or it's just underclocking for some odd reason. Also, are you certain that it's a XP3000+?
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 06:17 PM

yes im sure its a 3000 and yes my mobo can support it. The mobo fsb is 400mhz and the chips is 400 mhz.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:18 PM

I would say that the best thing to do in this case would be to contact AMD directly. I am not sure if there is a way to check out your processor specs without using BIOs and that could be wrong!? but i doubt it

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:22 PM

kk. would the difference be an appreciable one. it says my clock speed is around 1292 does this help
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:26 PM

When i ran an everest system analysis it says that its a AMD athlon 1700+

I've not seen or heard of everest erring in such a way. :thumbsup:
I'd tend to place faith in the findings,
and check into why it isn't what it
was advertised to be. :flowers:
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:27 PM

k could my bios settings be off and if so how would u change them
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:34 PM

Well if your motherboard cant support your cpu's higher fsb, then youll need to buy a new motherboard capable of doing so.

We need to find out your cpu's fsb, and your motherboard fsb cabability. Open everest and go to motherboard> processor and motherboard>motherboard and tell us the fsb.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:45 PM

its an Asus A7n8X-x and it says 400 fsb on the box and the processor should be a AMD Athlon Xp 3000+ and should be 400 too. But the fsb for the mobo says 200 under everest im confused
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:47 PM

its best to look at the report of everest from several angles,
to see if there are "irregularities" or "inconsistancies".

I take a couple lines out of the report b4 I post.

I do the report wizard > quick summary.
Save to desktop as "report.txt"

an example:

--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0)
Computer Name deleted
User Name joe

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 1733 MHz (13 x 133) 2100+
Motherboard Name MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
System Memory 512 MB (PC2100 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (01/16/03)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (64 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Monitor Compaq S710 [17" CRT] (037CG43HC314)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter nVIDIA MCP2 - Audio Codec Interface

Storage:
IDE Controller NVIDIA NForce MCP2 IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y120P0 (120 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Optical Drive _NEC DV-5800A (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
Optical Drive SONY CD-RW CRX230ED
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 117239 MB (67270 MB free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Network:
Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (64.40.57.140)
Modem HSP56 MicroModem

Peripherals:
Printer CAPTURE FAX BVRP
Printer Lexmark X5100 Series
USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller
USB2 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB Device Lexmark X5100 Series
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Human Interface Device
USB Device USB Printing Support

that's a section report ...
here it supports in more detail:


Processors / AMD Athlon™ XP ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer AMD
Version AMD Athlon™ XP
External Clock 133 MHz
Maximum Clock 2200 MHz
Current Clock 1733 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 1.5 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade ZIF
Socket Designation Socket A

and again, now you see it is a fairly old, economical socket A that runs kinda hot,
no overclocking done by me ...


Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP 2100+
CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B
CPU Stepping B0
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon™ XP 2100+
CPUID Revision 0681h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 1729.82 MHz
CPU Multiplier 13.0x
CPU FSB 133.06 MHz
Memory Bus 133.06 MHz

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 01/16/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM49C-00
Motherboard Name MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR, 3 DIMM, Audio)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
CAS Latency (CL) 2.5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 3T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 3T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 6T

SPD Memory Modules:
Xerox (512 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM) 512 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (CL 2.5 @ 133 MHz) (CL 2.0 @ 100 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 01/16/03
Video BIOS Date 06/16/03
Award BIOS Type Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message W6570MS V3.2 011603 10:28:22
DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG

Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0)
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
GPU Code Name NV11 (AGP 10DE / 0110, Rev B2)
GPU Clock 200 MHz
Memory Clock 155 MHz

Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 29 C (84 F)
Tcpu 38 C (100 F)
Fcpu 4167 RPM
Fcase 1885 RPM
Vcore 1.57 V
Vaux 1.62 V
Vio 3.31 V

i post this so you can kinda track what the differences
are between what it says you have, and what you have
been sold.
By checking all 67 reports, including the benchmark tests:
Mem read
Mem write

Or maybe the report is wildly outta whack ...
patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:50 PM

k so wut should i do
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 12:01 AM

copy/paste from your report to show whats up with it.
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 03:08 AM

Someone correct me if I am wrong (which i most likely am :thumbsup: ) but here goes:

If the processor is a 3000+ (2100 mhz) then...

2100 (mhz) / 400 (mhz fsb) = 5.25 = cpu clock *2 (DDR -double data rate) = 10.5 (clock multiplier)



But it shows 1700+ (1467 mhz) so...

1467 (mhz) / 266 (mhz fsb) = 5.5 = cpu clock *2 (DDR -double data rate) = 11 (clock multiplier)


So what it sounds like is your FSB is set too low or you have the wrong kind of memory installed. (pc2700 instead of pc3200, for example) which would also account for your FSB.

What are the specs on your memory sticks?

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 03:42 AM

:thumbsup: That sure seems like a good bit of calculating,
and I think I might even understand it, too

I want to thank you for trying so hard to
support the logical considerations you present:

FSB set to low in BIOS
possibly wrong RAM for the cpu/mobo

I could use a lesson in practical equations
relative to both Intel & AMD PC construction.

When you feel up to another twenty trains
rolling down the track, post again about it, OK?

Yes, what nick said, check that out, Rabbuk
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 06:12 PM

my memory is 3200 so i guess its my bios settings ill look into it and get back to you peeps. Thanks
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