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Can't network between Windows 7 and Windows XP


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#1 Artemisia

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 07:43 AM

I'm trying to get my Windows 7 and Windows XP desktops to network so I can use a printer that is connected to the Windows XP desktop.
Both computers are connected to the internet via cable.

In Windows 7, I've set the network to a work network, under system settings, I've confirmed the Workgroup is WORKGROUP. When I click "Start, Network", I see my computer name, Network Infrastructure is my Cisco E300 wireless modem. I made sure that the advanced sharing settings show no password required, network discovery is on, and printer sharing is on.

In Windows XP, I'm having a problem. I've confirmed the Workgroup is WORKGROUP. Under "See computers in network", I only see the Windows XP computer. I've tried restarting the XP desktop, and haven't seen a change.

I don't see the other computer in the network on either computer.

I thought this is all I had to do to set up a network, but it isn't working for me. Any help please?
So confused.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 07:59 AM

Are you actively sharing something, because if you are not then you will see the computer in network neighborhood.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:02 AM

Huh? I don't understand that. All I want to do is be able to see the Windows XP printer for use on the Windows 7 computer. I don't want to share anything else except the printer.

I just ran the Windows 7 Network "Troubleshoot Problems" program, and now I can't see my computer under "Networks". This is annoying.

FYI, I don't know a thing about networking. I just followed the general instructions on how to connect both computers, and it doesn't work.
So confused.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:04 AM

You need to make sure that file and printer sharing is enabled on both machines and that the printer is shared on the Windows XP Computer and that it is installed on the Windows 7 machine. Can I ask you what kind of printer this is? I only ask, because in order to share a printer on a computer that computer would have to remain on 24/7 to be able to print.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:17 AM

I've added screenshots below. Please let me know if any of these screenshots are compromising my security so I can delete them.

On the Windows 7 computer, I made sure that printer sharing is on:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H5TTEKaTJIA/TiWBtsIuWAI/AAAAAAAAbVM/gmpNhE5OdVA/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252090726%252520AM.jpg

I can't see my computer on the network page:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QasCnd-0vNw/TiWCAFTKdGI/AAAAAAAAbVQ/AIJYVd-BfQE/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252090900%252520AM.jpg

I try to add the printer from the Windows XP computer, but it won't find it:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-USbfIHaX1f4/TiWC2OjZ5KI/AAAAAAAAbVc/KqEeQN1OEVk/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252091232%252520AM.jpg

The laser printer on Windows XP looks likes it is being shared:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3cIVhGzieCc/TiWDIudGwDI/AAAAAAAAbVo/2nSc1p_e2CY/s800/2014.JPG

The Windows XP computer looks like it is on the WORKGROUP network:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xaYV7Mz42S4/TiWDJA82g3I/AAAAAAAAbVs/bHRvd9n8qNc/s800/2015.JPG

The Windows 7 computer is using WORKGROUP:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d8UalGmrDVc/TiWDlPQCbQI/AAAAAAAAbV4/n53zux_NXg4/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252091544%252520AM.jpg

What do I do now?
So confused.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:32 AM

Huh. I just used the suggestion on this page: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpronetworking/thread/7c4ae439-f0f4-4f1e-a62d-81b1387d3d2b/

and typed in \\THEBEAST in the Start, Search. It shows the printer, but it still is trying to connect.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OZHgte6RMCo/TiWGlLYvyLI/AAAAAAAAbWM/v5mwCnNllww/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252092839%252520AM.jpg
(It seems like it's connected now).

But it doesn't show on the network when I click "Network". But it showed as connected before. I refreshed the network page too. I don't get it!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pH-238iGSd4/TiWHJmjlPDI/AAAAAAAAbWQ/2Tba0kUzTUw/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252093112%252520AM.jpg

I'm going to try to print something off it now. Maybe that will jolt it to show on the network page...
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:35 AM

It shows under Printers as available:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9UCRKVnCmqU/TiWHuFwIfrI/AAAAAAAAbWc/pgALwmDG-DI/s800/Fullscreen%252520capture%2525207192011%25252093258%252520AM.jpg

I was able to finally print something.

But what I don't get is that the printer, nor THEBEAST is showing under the Networks page. Why not?
So confused.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:40 AM

You are not sharing the printer at all, you need to right click on the printer and go to the sharing option and share it out.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:21 AM

There is a difference in how Windows XP and 7 browse the network when there is not a server, explaining your inconsistencies when browsing the network. I believe the Windows 7 machine will show up if you disable the firewall, but it is more common to use the UNC paths when sharing, so you were correct to navigate to \\THEBEAST. You also stumbled through the correct process for adding a shared printer, the general steps usually include:

  • Share the printer from the machine it's installed on
  • Connect to the machine via UNC that is sharing the printer (\\thebeast) from the PC you want connected (\\moltabocca)
  • Right-click printer and choose "Connect", a driver search will begin
    * Sometimes this part isn't automatic, and you would have to download the Windows 7 driver for your printer from the manufacturer's website. Depending on the model of printer, this is usually an easy process that only adds a few extra steps.
  • Print a test page to make sure it worked!
Anyway, I've run into this issue before with network discovery on the two operating systems, and I still don't know what the root cause is. Some sites recommend switching from a Work to Home connection on the Windows 7 machine, and someone else reported a fix by changing the Windows 7 workgroup to a different name then changing it back. You could try cryptodan's suggestion and share a printer from the Windows 7 machine as well, if the computer is not sharing anything it may not show up on the list. Great job with the screenshots though, it really helped me walk through your issue!

Edited by whoabuddy, 19 July 2011 - 09:21 AM.

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