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Transferring OS from old system to New WITHOUT Reinstall


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#1 red_devil028

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:35 AM

allright, maybe y'all can help me a bit...

Customers pc is a HP originally, although, this HP is about to die.
Operating system is windows2000, on the operating system, there is a program installed for making a Machine work for stone cutting, the supplier of the software has recently gone broke so a reinstall of the system is not possible, since their website is offline and a registry cannot be done

So all we can now do is copy the drive and stick into a new computer.

What i have done already:
- Drive is a Ghost from the original ((for protection of the original OS))

- i have done a checkdisk and a fixboot + fixmbr on the new computer.
- i have installed the drivers for the new pc on the old pc, so the OS could recognise it
- i have let win2000 recover at it self
- i have made a fresh install on a different drive and copied the system files to the old install, did not work, replaced the ghost again.


--- The bluescreen i get now is ntoskrnl.exe
- I have already copied this one from the win2000 CD
- i have renamed the old one as well for backup
- Replaced the hal.dll, had no effect either


anyone any other Idea?
system needs to be ready before the end of next week

regards

Edited by red_devil028, 13 July 2011 - 10:38 AM.

Current systems: CM STACKER Custom PC / MSI CX 620 / ACER Z5751 Touchscreen

Current role: PC Technician @ Computrac Belgium - Specialisation: Hardware.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:38 AM

How new is the new system?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:45 AM

ah yes i forgot to mention that...

New system is a Gigabyte G41M-Combo and a E5700 with 1GB DDR2 ram ((as i am a bit scared with 2))

Harddrive is a 60GB IDE Driveas i doubt it will accept a sata drive.

Edited by red_devil028, 13 July 2011 - 10:46 AM.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:49 AM

You will have to perform a new install.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:00 AM

I would love to do that :P

Unfortunately i cannot, as i have said before customer will not be able to use their machine on a fresh install...

Trying on a 478 mainboard at the moment
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:02 AM

Why cant they use their machine on a fresh install? What is on the other drive that is so important? You will have to explain to the customer that the hardware on the newer machine is generations ahead of the older machine and the only way things are possible is by doing a fresh install.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:05 AM

customer is a firm of stonecutters, manufacturer of machine went bankrupt so cannot do the online Registry so the system will NOT be able to work on a fresh install.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:08 AM

Online registry?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:14 AM

register program online before eligible to use. we have already tried installing from fresh. i forgot to mention
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:32 AM

I recommend locating another machine, preferably the exact model.
Ideally, it would be wise to acquire more than one and build up an inventory of compatible spares.

I have seen older HP boxes of Win 2000 vintage sell for $20 or $25.
Post your model here and I may be able to help, I have one that is like new and has been on the shelf for about four years.

If push came to shove, you may have to do some hacking if the app requires a specific internal ID.
Good luck, you do not seem to have many options available, but advice is cheap, so take advantage of all you can get.,

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:37 AM

It may still be required to register online.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:45 AM

Problem solved :D

@oledawg: thanks for the offer although, i fear i cannot go and sell old Systems if the customer asks a new one :D thanks though

I fixed it by uninstalling all drivers on the old Comp , cleaning the reg, and rebuilding the drivers on the new one...

Thanks all !

Edited by red_devil028, 13 July 2011 - 11:48 AM.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 08:23 AM

I know this might be too late now, but since you had such great luck restoring windows to dissimilar hardware, perhaps you'd want to try to convert the install into a virtual machine. Then you'd be able to load this up again for the customer on almost any OS. I've played with VirtualBox quite a bit and had pretty good luck restoring an XP box by booting it up in safe mode first on the virtual machine. I just cloned the partition on the physical drive with Clonezilla, and booted the clonezilla iso in VirtualBox and did a restore. Just food for thought. Glad you got it working!
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Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:33 PM

I know you had this done but I thought I would add in that laplink.com has some tools that might be useful for some in that situation.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 05:12 PM

I see I'm rather late to this party...

Problem solved :D

@oledawg: thanks for the offer although, i fear i cannot go and sell old Systems if the customer asks a new one :D thanks though

I fixed it by uninstalling all drivers on the old Comp , cleaning the reg, and rebuilding the drivers on the new one...

Thanks all !

I've found that I can migrate Win98 and Win2k systems by cloning them onto a new hard drive, booting the clone on the original machine and resetting the system to use all Windows standard drivers. [Video in particular] Sometimes this required actually de-installing drivers as you apparently did.

Then I save a clone of the system again in this state, in case I want to return to this point. Then, taking notes as I go, I try booting the drive on new hardware.

With each iteration, I make further notes and when I achieve a milestone, I re-save another clone.

Using this methodology I can step back whenever I realize I've made an error, to any of the previously saved "milestones".

When the drive is fully up on the new system, with new hardware drivers - I save the final result and turn it over to the customer, but also retain the notes, a copy of both the original untouched system, and the standard driver point.

I know this might be too late now, but since you had such great luck restoring windows to dissimilar hardware, perhaps you'd want to try to convert the install into a virtual machine. Then you'd be able to load this up again for the customer on almost any OS. I've played with VirtualBox quite a bit and had pretty good luck restoring an XP box by booting it up in safe mode first on the virtual machine. I just cloned the partition on the physical drive with Clonezilla, and booted the clonezilla iso in VirtualBox and did a restore. Just food for thought. Glad you got it working!


This is very interesting. I'm going to have to try this. Thanks!




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