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#1 ronfiveo

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 10:09 PM

I am having serious BSODs and none of the forums (internal hardware... Malware ) have been able to cure it.
I have already looked into the system repair using the install CD, but according to the program there was nothing to repair.
So, the next step I guess is to do a " clean install " using the full version CD.

I am almost to the point of a clean install just to rid myself of this nightmare.

boopme gave me a link to the step by step to do this and I am thankful for that.

I do have a couple of questions though.

Is it better to nuke the hard drive and start with a clean slate, or not, and when it comes to the part where you
are given the option at the partition decision, which is better......formatting the partition or just deleting and using one large one for every thing ?

And if you all have any hints or tips feel free to comment.

Thanks,

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 03:05 AM

If you choose to delete the partition then a new one is created and formatted during the install - if it's clean install I usually just choose this option, not that it makes a massive difference. As for partition size, really depends on the size of your hard disk and how you like to set these things up. You can save your data on a different partition which could potentially make things a little easier if you have problems with the windows install later on. But, it does not protect your data like another hard disk would (in the event of a hardware problem), it's still the same disk after all.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:07 AM

If you are going to start from scratch then deleting and recreating the partition(s) is absolutely the best option. Repartitioning will rewrite the MBR.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:52 AM

Ok, I was going to do the clean install, but it was booting and like running in slow motion.
I was using the install disk and every thing was taking a super long time.It just seemed out of timing kinda like a car...make sense?

Well I disconnected the machine and reset the CMOS (?) battery by taking it out and leaving it alone for about 15 to 20 min. and then replaced the battery , hooked the machine
up and started it.. and low and behold it booted normally. I had to reset the clock but other than that it seems to be running ok.

I had been very reluctant to turn it off until I had no pending business from my business assignments, and so I turned it off for the first time last night.
It started and booted fine and normally.

I am not saying the problem is fixed yet, but it might be. Still waiting for the second shoe to drop if you know what I mean .

I will keep all informed if the " blues" reappear .

Thanks all,

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:51 AM

Sad news, the blues are back.
This morning it booted up to the desktop for a minute and then "blue screen".
It did this three times and while using the " boot normally" option choice .

I inserted the EASEUS recovery disk and did not know what choice to make within the recovery tab options.
If I choose recover all partitions and hard drives does that mean it re-formats the hard drive with all my files gone, or what?

I chose to boot from the first hard drive from the home tab and now it's working ok...so far.
It's the first time for me to use the EASEUS revovery disk so I am asking how to use it.

Here is the technical information from the blue screen.

First blue screen
0X0000000A (0X00000015, 0X0000001C, 0X00000000, 0X820F1833)

Second blue screen
0x0000000A (0X00000000, 0X0000001B, 0X00000001, 0X82041435)

Third blue screen
0X00000050 (0XF81A9AD1, 0X00000000,X0X821A9752, 0A00000002)

I was hoping that all was cured or fixed, but it obviously is not.
This has been going on for a very long time and I am about to pull my hair out for sure.
I guess that maybe a complete clean install is in order but I would rather not if you know what I mean so any
help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Ron

PS, I am not shutting it off and leaving it running as before.

Edited by ronfiveo, 22 July 2011 - 06:53 AM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:15 PM

Download BlueScreenView:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
unzip downloaded file and double click on BlueScreenView.exe to run the program.
when scanning is done, go to EDIT - Select All
Go to FILE - SAVE Selected Items, and save the report as BSOD.txt
Open BSOD.txt in Notepad, copy all of the content, and paste it into your next reply

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:58 PM

==================================================
Dump File : Mini072211-03.dmp
Crash Time : 7/22/2011 9:53:48 AM
Bug Check String : APC_INDEX_MISMATCH
Bug Check Code : 0x00000001
Parameter 1 : 0x8221d626
Parameter 2 : 0x00000000
Parameter 3 : 0x0000fffe
Parameter 4 : 0x00000000
Caused By Driver : ntkrnlpa.exe
Caused By Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+4afe7
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18327 (vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+4afe7
Stack Address 1 :
Stack Address 2 :
Stack Address 3 :
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini072211-03.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini072211-02.dmp
Crash Time : 7/22/2011 6:25:10 AM
Bug Check String : PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Bug Check Code : 0x00000050
Parameter 1 : 0xf81a9ad1
Parameter 2 : 0x00000000
Parameter 3 : 0x821a9752
Parameter 4 : 0x00000002
Caused By Driver : ntkrnlpa.exe
Caused By Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+98379
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18327 (vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+98379
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+4ddd4
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+196752
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+256195
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini072211-02.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini072211-01.dmp
Crash Time : 7/22/2011 6:14:07 AM
Bug Check String : IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Bug Check Code : 0x0000000a
Parameter 1 : 0x00000000
Parameter 2 : 0x0000001b
Parameter 3 : 0x00000001
Parameter 4 : 0x82041435
Caused By Driver : ntkrnlpa.exe
Caused By Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+4dfd9
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18327 (vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+4dfd9
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+36435
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+41397
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+b2a4a
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini072211-01.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini071011-01.dmp
Crash Time : 7/10/2011 6:39:17 PM
Bug Check String : IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Bug Check Code : 0x0000000a
Parameter 1 : 0x00000000
Parameter 2 : 0x0000001b
Parameter 3 : 0x00000001
Parameter 4 : 0x82a3d435
Caused By Driver : aswSP.SYS
Caused By Address : aswSP.SYS+41de4
File Description : avast! self protection module
Product Name : avast! Antivirus System
Company : AVAST Software
File Version : 6.0.1203.0
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+4dfd9
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+36435
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+41397
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+b2a4a
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini071011-01.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 131,072
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini070911-03.dmp
Crash Time : 7/9/2011 6:23:49 AM
Bug Check String : PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Bug Check Code : 0x00000050
Parameter 1 : 0xffffffec
Parameter 2 : 0x00000000
Parameter 3 : 0x82a4d7ef
Parameter 4 : 0x00000000
Caused By Driver : ntkrnlpa.exe
Caused By Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+98379
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18327 (vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+98379
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+4ddd4
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+327ef
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+2357eb
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini070911-03.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini070911-02.dmp
Crash Time : 7/9/2011 5:42:52 AM
Bug Check String : MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
Bug Check Code : 0x0000001a
Parameter 1 : 0x00005001
Parameter 2 : 0xc0802000
Parameter 3 : 0x00000599
Parameter 4 : 0x77884001
Caused By Driver : ntkrnlpa.exe
Caused By Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+cdb3f
File Description : NT Kernel & System
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18327 (vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+cdb3f
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+5fb76
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+78806
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+77ce4
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini070911-02.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini070911-01.dmp
Crash Time : 7/9/2011 5:25:48 AM
Bug Check String : MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
Bug Check Code : 0x0000001a
Parameter 1 : 0x00005003
Parameter 2 : 0xc0802000
Parameter 3 : 0x0000ad9f
Parameter 4 : 0x0bac4b2e
Caused By Driver : hal.dll
Caused By Address : hal.dll+770c
File Description : Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6002.18005 (lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+cdb3f
Stack Address 1 : ntkrnlpa.exe+5fb76
Stack Address 2 : ntkrnlpa.exe+78806
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+99b86
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini070911-01.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File : Mini123107-01.dmp
Crash Time : 1/1/2008 12:01:06 AM
Bug Check String : NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
Bug Check Code : 0x00000024
Parameter 1 : 0x001904aa
Parameter 2 : 0xa40e3a58
Parameter 3 : 0xa40e3754
Parameter 4 : 0x82ac9a3e
Caused By Driver : Ntfs.sys
Caused By Address : Ntfs.sys+19fff
File Description : NT File System Driver
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Company : Microsoft Corporation
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Processor : 32-bit
Crash Address : ntkrnlpa.exe+cdb3f
Stack Address 1 : Ntfs.sys+19fff
Stack Address 2 : Ntfs.sys+17292
Stack Address 3 : ntkrnlpa.exe+ad218
Computer Name :
Full Path : C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini123107-01.dmp
Processors Count : 2
Major Version : 15
Minor Version : 6002
Dump File Size : 156,520
==================================================

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:03 PM

Whoa - those errors are all over the place. That indicates one of several possible issues:

1) Malware
2) Ram
3) VERY badly corrupted installation
4) Motherboard (or cpu, power supply, or something else). It has been my experience that multiple and varied bsod's are often indicative of a bad mobo.
5) Something else I haven't thought of

If our malware group has given you a clean bill of health you should check the ram. If you've done that you can either reinstall the OS from scratch (delete / recreate partitions, format, install) or replace the motherboard. I'd try the former first.

Edited by Allan, 22 July 2011 - 01:04 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

I am afraid that you are right Allan, as you noticed this thread was started in that frame of mind.
The errors are just too varied and numerous to be able to pin it down to a workable diagnosis. I was trying to get around that, but
installing a new mother board while not too expensive in my case if I went OEM, it's still a bigger headache that I would rather not get
into at this time.
If I clean install and the problem still persist, then there is only one more option. ....a motherboard-ecktomy kinda like a ( c )HIP replacement for a limping computer.
So.......I guess it's clean install time....." ^#^$(()%#%*(!@#$%^& " ...!
I will let you know how it goes and if I need any help I know where to come and who to ask.

Thanks for all you have done.

Ron

Edited by ronfiveo, 22 July 2011 - 02:28 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:30 PM

Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. Good luck.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:45 PM

NP Allan, I am hoping that the clean install will work but I am not too optimistic ...I am thinking that's the
problem is with the mofo mobo.

Thanks I do so much appreciate your time and effort.

Have a great one!

Ron

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:24 AM

I am wanting to try new RAM and I would like to know if I can put better ones instead of the ones that are
in now.

I know that memtest showed that the sticks were good, but maybe it's something that will not show up in that test or the built in
memory test I performed that 's built in to the Vista operating system.

I think they are DDR2 PC2-5300 and I would like to know if I can replace them with PC2-6400 or even PC2-8500 .

Also the place where you plug them in ...one set of 2 are white based and the other set of 2 are black based does that mean anything as to the installation positioning?

Right now the machine has two 1Gbs and two 512Mbs for a total of 3Gb...if I just replace them with two 2Gbs in stead of going whole hog for the max of 8Gb which color of base should I use or does it matter ? Also what brand is the better one or does it matter and outside of performance rating they are all the same so brand won't matter?

I know that if you have two different rated sticks that the machine will perform to the level of the lesser rated one, right?...so mix-matching sticks won't do the optimum performance
intended....right?

Thanks,
Ron

PS , I have not had any blues in the last couple of days and have turned the machine off a couple of times but I am thinking the machine is just being generous. I can hope any way.

PSS, I know that this is off topic so I have re-posted it in internal hardware forum.....sorry about that.

Edited by ronfiveo, 25 July 2011 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:49 AM

Did you try a clean install yet?

I would do so...especially if I suspected hardware issues.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 12:01 PM

No not yet (trying to avoid it if possible) . I have tried at times to use the " Unbutu try" disk to see if I still have the blues, but it hard to tell because you can't add programs or perifials with out installing it.
But when I do run that OS through the disk, I do not have any blues....but then again I did not get the blues the last two time I shut it down at night and started it in the morning.
Perhaps my machine is being generous with me ....or prolly not.

It's just so strange .

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 11:14 AM

OK, I bit the bullet and did a clean install, and so far no problems......yet,
I will keep you informed.




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