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Advice sought on a new systems spec


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#1 jbarntt

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:34 PM

Current system is:

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ CPU
PCchips A13G micro-ATX MOBO
NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 mobo video w/256 MB RAM
1 GB DDR2 PC2-5300 RAM
1 160 GB SATA HDD
1 DVD read/write (not sure if SATA or IDE)

System dual boots Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux.

Reason for upgrade: I play Eve Online and recent game upgrade has forced me to drastically reduce my game settings to make it playable. I believe this is largely a GPU issue, as during gameplay, neither memory or CPU is hit hard. Eve also has the GeForce 6100 as maybe playable, but not supported.

My thoughts on a new system:

Windows 7 Home
500 GB HDD
4 GB Ram

My question is which of two GPU/CPU options to go with:

AMD A8-3850 APU, ("Llano")

or:

AMD Phenom II 840 + AMD Radeon HD 5670, (equivalent to the A8-3850)

Obviously new mobo in either case (Crossfire ready), possibly PSU and DVD drive.

TIA,

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:46 PM

5670 IMO all the way

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 12:39 AM

The 5670 is a awesome card, i have one myself.

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 11:16 PM

Essentially, the A8 3850 Llano APU's are a lower clocked Phenom II paired with a Radeon 6550. The Phenom II system, if you use an AMD 900-series chipset, will provide a better experience with more future upgrade options. I would stay away from non-Black Edition CPU's with Phenom II's. The price difference between the locked and unlocked CPU's are very minor and you get a higher stock speed.

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 01:33 AM

Essentially, the A8 3850 Llano APU's are a lower clocked Phenom II paired with a Radeon 6550. The Phenom II system, if you use an AMD 900-series chipset, will provide a better experience with more future upgrade options. I would stay away from non-Black Edition CPU's with Phenom II's. The price difference between the locked and unlocked CPU's are very minor and you get a higher stock speed.

Some people just don't overclock their processor.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:32 PM

Some people just don't overclock their processor.


It's insanely easy with BE processors, besides, even if you don't overclock, the Black Editions do have a higher speed with a marginal increase in cost.

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:58 PM

It maybe easy but some people are just happy with their stock processor clock speed.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 July 2011 - 12:55 AM

Like me, I don't OC because the performance difference usually isn't that major to risk OC'ing my CPU.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 04:46 AM

That's my point, you don't need to fork out money on unlocked processors if your not gonna overclock :thumbsup:

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 July 2011 - 05:19 PM

...but the BE CPU's have a higher clock out-of-the-box past the 955. The $10 difference between the two CPU's for the added possibility to overclock is worth it if you plan on keeping the setup for several years.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:11 PM

There maybe a added possibility to overclock but some just will never overclock it really. Some are already happy with the performance they are getting with that lower clock speed.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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