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AMD Athlon II X6 vs. Phenom II X4


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Posted 29 June 2011 - 04:25 PM

Hello guys.

I have an AMD Athlon II X2, currently, which is working on its standard 3.0 GHz clock (model 250).
So, I'm experiencing slowdowns in games like Mount&Blade Warband (version 1.134). In huge battles game can freeze on ~1sec several times.
My question is: is it because of a low L2/L3 caches? Or because now-a-days games require at least quad-core processor?.. or both?
Also, I want an expert's comment - what's better, Athlon II X6 (six-core with low L2/L3 caches) or Phenom II X4 (full-featured quad-core)?

I hope that the right person will come here, who knows about tech, and won't be too lazy to tell everything with details.

Thanks in advance! :)

P.S. Why specifically these two processors is because it's my budget on upgrade, if I would want to change something.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 04:54 PM

Please perform the following, so that we can get the exact specs of your computer. This will better assist us in helping you more.

Publish a Snapshot using Speccy

The below is for those who cannot get online

Please take caution when attaching a text file to your post if you cannot copy/paste the link to your post, you will need to edit it to make sure that your Windows Key is not present.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:02 PM

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/DIB5KjkFDUcr3pkHJqiqkFA

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:09 PM

Are your video card drivers fully updated along with your DirectX and other drivers?

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:16 PM

The video card's drivers are somewhat recent (not the latest, but...).
Don't really remember about the sound. Older, but adequate too.

Take a look at my BIOS, it's vers. F1. Check if everything is compatible on GIGABYTE's site. The motherboard is GA-MA78GM-US2H rev. 1.0.

...take a deeper look and let me know if someting is wrong there.

Thanks a lot!

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:26 PM

Nothing is wrong your system far exceeds that of the system requirements. Update all your drivers.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 11:08 PM

Please, answering these questions is vital:

Link me to my motherboard's Audio drivers (it's Realtek). My HD 5750 Audio?
As far as I can remember, there's 6 drivers on my mobo's CD... they are:
1. AMD Processor Driver (Cool'n'Quiet).
2. Mobo's north bridge.
3. Mobo's south bridge, incl. int. HD 3200 driver (my mobo is on 780G chipset).
4. LAN driver.
5. GIGABYTE's Easy Saver (software).
6. GIGABYTE's browser configure utilitie (software, places Google.com as a home page).
...and that's about it.. I think.

ALSO (important): in case I'll have a crash installing drivers, what should I do?.. reinstall previous one? ... I'm not sure, but I think I remember a crash on updating mobo's, main, north bridge driver. It was taken from GIGABYTE's site though.

Many thanks with help. Please, answer all that's above... it's all very useful information for me!

P.S. Uninstall and only then install - is applicable only for ATI drivers?

Edited by rhino1366, 29 June 2011 - 11:09 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2011 - 11:35 PM

The RealTek Audio and LAN can be located here: http://www.realtek.com

Your video card can be found here same for your AMD780G Chipset: http://www.amd.com

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 01:16 AM

By updating your drivers it might solve that freeze.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:28 AM

Yesterday, updated BIOS to version F8. Only one core of processor problem is killed.

Today, two more BSODs. Here's report:

Attached File  1'st.of.July.BSODs.txt   3.08KB   1 downloads

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:40 AM

Hello,

And welcome to BleepingComputer.com, before we can assist you with your question of: Am I infected? You will need to perform the following tasks and post the logs of each if you can.

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware

NOTEMalwarebytes is now offering a free trial of their program, if you want to accept it you will need to enter some billing information, so that at the end of the trial you would be charged the cost of the product. Please decline this offer, if you are unable to provide billing information. If you want to try it out, then provide the billing information.

Please download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and save it to your desktop.
Download Link 1
Download Link 2MBAM may "make changes to your registry" as part of its disinfection routine. If using other security programs that detect registry changes (ie Spybot's Teatimer), they may interfere or alert you. Temporarily disable such programs or permit them to allow the changes.

  • Make sure you are connected to the Internet.
  • Double-click on mbam-setup.exe to install the application.
    For instructions with screenshots, please refer to the How to use Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware Guide.
  • When the installation begins, follow the prompts and do not make any changes to default settings.
  • When installation has finished, make sure you leave both of these checked:
    • Update Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
    • Launch Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
  • Then click Finish.
MBAM will automatically start and you will be asked to update the program before performing a scan.
  • If an update is found, the program will automatically update itself. Press the OK button to close that box and continue.
  • If you encounter any problems while downloading the definition updates, manually download them from here and just double-click on mbam-rules.exe to install.
On the Scanner tab:
  • Make sure the "Perform Full Scan" option is selected.
  • Then click on the Scan button.
  • If asked to select the drives to scan, leave all the drives selected and click on the Start Scan button.
  • The scan will begin and "Scan in progress" will show at the top. It may take some time to complete so please be patient.
  • When the scan is finished, a message box will say "The scan completed successfully. Click 'Show Results' to display all objects found".
  • Click OK to close the message box and continue with the removal process.
Back at the main Scanner screen:
  • Click on the Show Results button to see a list of any malware that was found.
  • Make sure that everything is checked, and click Remove Selected.
  • When removal is completed, a log report will open in Notepad.
  • The log is automatically saved and can be viewed by clicking the Logs tab in MBAM.
  • Copy and paste the contents of that report in your next reply. Be sure to post the complete log to include the top portion which shows MBAM's database version and your operating system.
  • Exit MBAM when done.
Note: If MBAM encounters a file that is difficult to remove, you will be asked to reboot your computer so MBAM can proceed with the disinfection process. If asked to restart the computer, please do so immediately. Failure to reboot normally (not into safe mode) will prevent MBAM from removing all the malware.


SUPERAntiSpyware:

Please download and scan with SUPERAntiSpyware Free

  • Double-click SUPERAntiSypware.exe and use the default settings for installation.
  • An icon will be created on your desktop. Double-click that icon to launch the program.
  • If it will not start, go to Start > All Prgrams > SUPERAntiSpyware and click on Alternate Start.
  • If asked to update the program definitions, click "Yes". If not, update the definitions before scanning by selecting "Check for Updates". (If you encounter any problems while downloading the updates, manually download them from here. Double-click on the hyperlink for Download Installer and save SASDEFINITIONS.EXE to your desktop. Then double-click on SASDEFINITIONS.EXE to install the definitions.)
  • In the Main Menu, click the Preferences... button.
  • Click the "General and Startup" tab, and under Start-up Options, make sure "Start SUPERAntiSpyware when Windows starts" box is unchecked.
  • Click the "Scanning Control" tab, and under Scanner Options, make sure the following are checked (leave all others unchecked):
    • Close browsers before scanning.
    • Scan for tracking cookies.
    • Terminate memory threats before quarantining.
  • Click the "Close" button to leave the control center screen and exit the program.
  • Do not run a scan just yet.
Reboot your computer in "Safe Mode" using the F8 method. To do this, restart your computer and after hearing your computer beep once during startup (but before the Windows icon appears) press the F8 key repeatedly. A menu will appear with several options. Use the arrow keys to navigate and select the option to run Windows in "Safe Mode".

Scan with SUPERAntiSpyware as follows:
  • Launch the program and back on the main screen, under "Scan for Harmful Software" click Scan your computer.
  • On the left, make sure you check C:\Fixed Drive.
  • On the right, under "Complete Scan", choose Perform Complete Scan and click "Next".
  • After the scan is complete, a Scan Summary box will appear with potentially harmful items that were detected. Click "OK".
  • Make sure everything has a checkmark next to it and click "Next".
  • A notification will appear that "Quarantine and Removal is Complete". Click "OK" and then click the "Finish" button to return to the main menu.
  • If asked if you want to reboot, click "Yes" and reboot normally.
  • To retrieve the removal information after reboot, launch SUPERAntispyware again.
    • Click Preferences, then click the Statistics/Logs tab.
    • Under Scanner Logs, double-click SUPERAntiSpyware Scan Log.
    • If there are several logs, click the current dated log and press View log. A text file will open in your default text editor.
    • Please copy and paste the Scan Log results in your next reply.
  • Click Close to exit the program.
If you have a problem downloading, installing or getting SAS to run, try downloading and using the SUPERAntiSpyware Portable Scanner instead. Save the randomly named file (i.e. SAS_1710895.COM) to a usb drive or CD and transfer to the infected computer. Then double-click on it to launch and scan. The file is randomly named to help keep malware from blocking the scanner.

Instructions:

Download and scan with SUPERAntiSpyware Free for Home Users
  • Double-click SUPERAntiSpyware.exe and use the default settings for installation.
  • An icon will be created on your desktop. Double-click that icon to launch the program.
  • If asked to update the program definitions, click "Yes". If not, update the definitions before scanning by selecting "Check for Updates". (If you encounter any problems while downloading the updates, manually download them from here. Double-click on the hyperlink for Download Installer and save SASDEFINITIONS.EXE to your desktop. Then double-click on SASDEFINITIONS.EXE to install the definitions.)
  • In the Main Menu, click the Preferences... button.
  • Click the Scanning Control tab.
  • Under Scanner Options make sure the following are checked (leave all others unchecked):
    • Close browsers before scanning.
    • Scan for tracking cookies.
    • Terminate memory threats before quarantining.
  • Click the "Close" button to leave the control center screen.
  • Back on the main screen, under "Scan for Harmful Software" click Scan your computer.
  • On the left, make sure you check C:\Fixed Drive.
  • On the right, under "Complete Scan", choose Perform Complete Scan.
  • Click "Next" to start the scan. Please be patient while it scans your computer.
  • After the scan is complete, a Scan Summary box will appear with potentially harmful items that were detected. Click "OK".
  • Make sure everything has a checkmark next to it and click "Next".
  • A notification will appear that "Quarantine and Removal is Complete". Click "OK" and then click the "Finish" button to return to the main menu.
  • If asked if you want to reboot, click "Yes".
  • To retrieve the removal information after reboot, launch SUPERAntispyware again.
    • Click Preferences, then click the Statistics/Logs tab.
    • Under Scanner Logs, double-click SUPERAntiSpyware Scan Log.
    • If there are several logs, click the current dated log and press View log. A text file will open in your default text editor.
    • Please copy and paste the Scan Log results in your next reply.
  • Click Close to exit the program.
If you have a problem downloading, installing or getting SAS to run, try downloading and using the SUPERAntiSpyware Portable Scanner instead. Save the randomly named file (i.e. SAS_1710895.COM) to a usb drive or CD and transfer to the infected computer. Then double-click on it to launch and scan. The file is randomly named to help keep malware from blocking the scanner.


Now GMER

GMER does not work in 64bit Mode!!!!!!

Please download GMER from one of the following locations and save it to your desktop:

  • Main Mirror
    This version will download a randomly named file (Recommended)
  • Zipped Mirror
    This version will download a zip file you will need to extract first. If you use this mirror, please extract the zip file to your desktop.
  • Disconnect from the Internet and close all running programs.
  • Temporarily disable any real-time active protection so your security programs will not conflict with gmer's driver.
  • Double-click on the randomly named GMER file (i.e. n7gmo46c.exe) and allow the gmer.sys driver to load if asked.
  • Note: If you downloaded the zipped version, extract the file to its own folder such as C:\gmer and then double-click on gmer.exe.

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  • GMER will open to the Rootkit/Malware tab and perform an automatic Full Scan when first run. (do not use the computer while the scan is in progress)
  • If you receive a WARNING!!! about rootkit activity and are asked to fully scan your system...click NO.
  • Now click the Scan button. If you see a rootkit warning window, click OK.
  • When the scan is finished, click the Save... button to save the scan results to your Desktop. Save the file as gmer.log.
  • Click the Copy button and paste the results into your next reply.
  • Exit GMER and be sure to re-enable your anti-virus, Firewall and any other security programs you had disabled.
-- If you encounter any problems, try running GMER in safe mode.
-- If GMER crashes or keeps resulting in a BSODs, uncheck Devices on the right side before scanning
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 03:23 AM

I know that it is crazy strange, but...

Today, while browsing screenshots of a game I play, I've noticed that on one photo there's some kind of a "noise" in my headphones, but on other there's not.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 04:32 AM

2 new BSODs for this morning (totally 4), while scanning (during that) by MBAM. Here they are:

Attached File  1'st.of.July.BSODs(2).txt   3.28KB   0 downloads

Edit:

Performing "sfc.exe /scannow", as usual...

Edited by rhino1366, 01 July 2011 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 01 July 2011 - 11:17 AM

Please run those scans and post the logs as requested. If you have questions please do not PM requesting further information post the question here in your topic.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 01:25 PM

5'th BSOD on today:

Attached File  1'st.of.July.BSODs(3).txt   1.4KB   0 downloads

MBAM log (scanned in Safe Mode, only that way it finished properly (two previous scans failed with BSODs)):

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.51.0.1200
www.malwarebytes.org

Версия базы данных: 6991

Windows 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 (Safe Mode)
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702

01.07.2011 20:20:52
mbam-log-2011-07-01 (20-20-52).txt

Тип сканирования: Полное сканирование (C:\|D:\|)
Просканированные объекты: 242614
Времени прошло: 1 часов, 37 минут, 31 секунд

Зараженные процессы в памяти: 0
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