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Trouble With New Wireless Router


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#1 gialde

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 01:07 AM

First of all, I'm a complete novice on wireless networking. I recently bought my dad a desktop PC. I got him on the net with a DSL connection and now want to use a wireless router. I have been working on the setup for about 3 hours and am at my wits end. I have complete access to the internet except when the router is connected. I have gone through the setup all the way to the point where it tries to connect to the net. It cannot find an internet connection. I believe I have the Norton firewall down (I disabled it) that came with the PC. I reset the router (held reset for 30 seconds, etc) and that doesn't solve the problem. I sincerely hope this an easy question for you pros to answer as I am out of ideas. My router is a Linksys something-something 54g. (I am now at home and the router is at my dad's house) Again, the DSL works great when connected directly to the desktop...it's just the router I can't get to work. Please help/ask me questions/whatever so I can move forward with this. Thanks in advance for your time.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 03:02 PM

I'm trying to set up a wireless connection between a desktop in one room and a modem in another (modem is not connected to a PC). Is this possible? I bought a wireless router but I seem to have missed the fact that the router will need to talk to the modem in the other room somehow. I am not using laptops so am I completely off base here??? I definitely have an internet connection (I bought a 100 ft. phone cord to sign the computer on to my ISP first) but I cannot see the net through my router. I think I need some sort of wireless transmitter on the modem so the desktop can receive that signal in another room. Is this just a pipe dream???

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 04:39 PM

Your modem and router should be connected via ethernet cable. Connect you router to you modem then connect wirelessly to your computer. You will need a wireless NIC (Network Interface Card) in your computer. You can use a USB which does not require you to enter your computer case or a PCI which installs, which you can easly do, inside your computer. I don't like USB, but it is easy to install.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 04:50 PM

Whatever you choose use the 802.11g standard. Here are some examples...

PCI (plugs in inside the computer)

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http://shop.store.yahoo.com/justdeals/dwlag530.html


USB (Plugs in to any available USB socket)


http://shop.store.yahoo.com/justdeals/dwlg132re.html

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:04 PM

Roger that. I'll go get one tonight and hopefully everything works great from here on out. I'll report back. :thumbsup:

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 11:32 PM

I believe I have the adapter and router setup correctly but can't connect to the internet. Please help.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 01:03 AM

OK on the internet...network is working! One issue...it does not say it is secure. What step(s) should I take to prevent unwanted people from tapping into my wireless network?

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 01:24 AM

Well done! :thumbsup:
Could you give us a bit of detail on how you found your solution?

Can you connect to the routers configuration page?

Here are some general notes but it really depends on how you set up your network:
Start your web browser and in the Address bar type the IP address of your device. (Usually it is something like 192.168.1.1) This will open a login page where you have to enter a user and password (Usually admin and admin) and then you are into the router configuration 'site'. Here you can change parameters relating to addressing, firewalls, encryption, etc. You should choose a name for your wirless network which will become its SSID. Your network will then be a bit more exclusive but anyone who "sees" it can still join it if they want to. Unless you have a special reason for doing otherwise you should configure your Wireless router to act as a DHCP server which means you can configure all your devices to obtain their IP and DNS addresses automatically and then forget about them. For better security you should assign the IP addresses manually.

Encryption
I'd strongly recommend you use encryption to stop the whole neigbourhood being able to surf the net and possibly download porn, pirated movies and music using your bandwidth. Select either WPA-PSK or if that's not available WEP (you must use the same type of encryption on all the devices or they will not work). Both WEP and WPA encrypt your data as it is broadcast using an encryption key. The key is defined when you configure the router. One of the major differences between WEP and WPA is WPA automatically changes the key at preset times. Different routers allow you to enter the key in slightly different ways - some generate the key from a "passphrase" that you can make up. Others want a 10 digit number. Others can use both these methods and more.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 01:30 AM

Excellent reply. I actually entered that IP address in my browser but forgot the user name and password were "admin" so I closed it. Now I can go in there and secure the network. I did use WEP and entered a randomly generated key given to me by the router. I have written it down so I can add other computers, etc. When I browse to the IP is there anything else I should be looking for? I was able to see other wireless networks when I started this one but they were secure...mine said it was not. I figure if they ain't giving it away, neither am I! Thanks again for your help.

P.S. I set everything up using the disks that came with the router and adapter...no tricks.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 01:32 AM

BTW, I am assuming I am still not secure because I have not entered an SSID.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 02:56 AM

The router will have assigned a default SSID then, probably something like Linksys or LinksysNet or whatever.
The advantage of changing the name is you can be sure its your own network that is being connected to (and you are not part of every other network that used the default SSID). Pick a non-identifying name since the SSID is broadcast to the outside world.
How much security it actually adds I'm not sure anymore since many wireless cards seem to automatically connect to any SSID they can detect (or let you choose if there are several) - they cannot connect if you have WEP enabled of course (unless they crack the key).
In some routers there is the option to not broadcast the SSID to reduce the risk of becoming a target for hackers.

If you are really concerned about your network security look at MAC address lists. That way your wireless network will only talk to the network cards you define. Strong security but a pain to add another device or if you change the network card.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 03:01 AM

I'll probably just add a unique SSID and see how that goes. Security is always a concern but I think this should be sufficient for my dad's PC considering he doesn't know how to turn it on. :thumbsup: Thank you a ton for all your input. You are a true asset to this site.

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Posted 11 January 2006 - 06:57 AM

Thanks very much. It's always a pleasure to help people who are appreciative.
Don't forget you can help others with your own experience. :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 02:20 PM

OK Rimmer or any other network guru, now there seems to be another issue. Everything was working fine (I still have not gone back to my dad's to secure the network but I will providing this issue can be resolved) and now the phone line gets static (it's DSL) and the internet stops. I called our ISP (also happens to be the phone company) and they suggested I change the DSL filters, which I did. When this happened the internet worked again and the static stopped. However, the next day my dad said the internet was down again and the phone was completely off. I went over and just turned off the modem and the phone was back to normal and when I turned it back on the internet worked again. For some reason the signal seems to erode and the voice line gets full of static. Have you ever heard of this? Is this something to do with my wireless network or is it the phone company? I find it hard to believe my network is doing this since it seems to be running fine (except that I have not secured it yet). Please help if you can. Thanks.

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 07:10 PM

I had a similar problem with my cable internet. It was a grounding problem. The coax between the pole and the house was faulty. It would build a static electrial charge to a point that I could not use the telephone or internet. I have VOIP telephone service.


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