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#1 CookiesnCakes

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:06 PM

Hi, I have an Optiplex 745 (Desktop/Small Form. I'm not sure which) and I want to upgrade/replace a videocard. New drivers seem to have ended for it so...

  • SYSTEM: Windows XP Professional x86.
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I currently have the Intel ® Q965/963 Chipset that's embedded into the motherboard and I'm not sure if I can put in a another videocard by uninstalling the chipset hardware and installing another.
TARGET: A less than decent computer that can run some of the more modern games, i.e. Dragon nest, Vindictus, Divine Souls, Spiral Knights.
Their game specs, excluding Spiral Knights, are somewhere around (minimum):

CPU: Pentium III 1.6 GHz
RAM: 512 MB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA 5700 / Radeon 9550
I'm so lost about this lol...

Budget: $1-40 (50 is pushing it, but I can go for it)
Preferred location to get it (physically): NYC. I heard Tigerdirect and Newegg stores are available somewhere in Manhat... so maybe there? Or anywhere else that's able to provide it at a lower or equal price.

Thanks! A lot.(and sorry if I'm requesting more help than usual when asking for store locations...)

Edited by CookiesnCakes, 21 June 2011 - 09:10 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:23 PM

The desktop is the biggest one and the small form is like half of that. They all have low wattage. You said you either had the Desktop or the small form. The desktop has only 280W and the small form has 275W.

Have a look at the pictures below to see which size is your one.
http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/optiplex-745/pd

Now, i have found a card that will fit but you have to change the bracket to low profile if it is Desktop or lower. When you change it you can't use the VGA port, you msut use the HDMI or DVI port. If your monitor just has VGA then you can buy a adapter which converts from DVI to VGA.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998101

Edit: The graphics card should be able to play the game finely. I would be still concern about the power supply.

Edited by killerx525, 21 June 2011 - 09:25 PM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:30 PM

I think it's smallform. Pretty sure.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:33 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338063

This power supply might fit. But you should carefully measure your current power supply and compare the dimensions for the new one. 3.2" x 1.7" x 6"

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:35 PM

Wait. I'm confused. Do I have to get the Athena Power supply thing too? (There's also no link to the graphic cards you have mentioned)

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:38 PM

Sorry school's computer is a bit stuffy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131371

Just in case the current power supply can't power it.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:43 PM

It's fine. Thanks a lot.
Is there any chance that this card could be purchased physically in a store?

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:45 PM

Possibly if your local store has it in stock.

Edited by killerx525, 21 June 2011 - 09:46 PM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:54 PM

Okay, I searched up the one you've recommended and I can't seem to find one under the name of PowerColor. I see plenty of Radeon 3450 under the name of VisionTek such as this but I don't see any under PowerColor. Are these two things the same thing?


EDIT:
Found a slightly better match.

http://www.computernyc.com/rad75al6417.html

These two would be the same, yes? (As to the one recommended above)

Edited by CookiesnCakes, 21 June 2011 - 10:10 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2011 - 10:13 PM

What really matters is the Radeon 3450 portion, that says specifically the model of the card. PowerColor is just the brand, and there are other brands to choose from for the Radeon 3450. Both the PowerColor and the VisionTek are the same at their core, which is a 3450. The VisionTek is slightly more powerful, but it is not a low-profile card, I think, it's hard to tell in the picture at Dell, which you may need if you have a slimline case. The PowerColor AX3450 512MD2-H Radeon HD 3450 512MB offers the same specifications as the VisionTek, but is low profile.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 10:27 PM

What do you mean by low profile? As in slimmer... less power consuming?

Oh, btw. When installing the video card, you would have to uninstall the previous video card drivers, right?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 12:42 AM

Low profile is a half size bracket which secures the graphics card. And yes, you do need to remove the old drivers.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 10:29 AM

Okay thanks.
When installing the video card to my Optiplex, where would the PCI slot be located/look like? Is it the long white slot?

How do I know which HDMI/VGA/D-Sub slot am I using?
I checked the monitor and the wire connects to the D-Sub slot, but I can't figure out which slot it connects to behind the desktop.

Edited by CookiesnCakes, 22 June 2011 - 10:31 AM.


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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:04 PM

To save yourself some time, download the new drivers before you uninstall the drivers for your old graphics card. Anyway, I cannot find any images of your motherboard, however, that Dell PC does allow for a PCI-E X16 card, which is what we are looking at. In this image, the PCI-Express X16 slot would be the longer ones, the second from the top and the bottom. The graphics card I linked to at Newegg has a VGA (D-Sub), DVI, and HDMI port. The one at the bottom is a standard PCI slot, notice how a PCI-E X16 card can only fit into a PCI-E X16 slot and not the standard PCI slot? This means you can easily connect it to the appropriate port on the back. None of the ports are mutually compatible, meaning, you cannot plug a VGA (D-Sub) monitor into the HDMI or DVI port without an adapter.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:19 PM

You should buy the DVI to VGA adapter which should be easily found at local computer stores.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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