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Need to build new PC but must run XP


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#1 bsnyderbc

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 08:04 PM

I need to build a replacement PC that will use XP Pro but I'm not sure if any of the currently available hardware is XP friendly. The computer I have now is sufficient for my needs (graphic design and output) but the motherboard is giving me problems. All the programs I run work perfectly so I'm not willing to spend thousands on unnecessary upgrades just so they'll run under Windows 7. I've researched running programs in "xp mode" and it's not going to work for me. Any suggestions?

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 08:46 PM

Most new hardware would be compatible with windows xp. Do you only do graphics design or are there other tasks you do? What will be the budget? Does it include a monitor and keyboard/mouse?

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 10:07 PM

Most hardware out today will work on XP, however, certain functions may only be available on Vista or 7. You are going to have to cut the cord eventually, XP will be fully leaving support at Microsoft soon. Also, keep in mind that if you are video editing or doing anything that requires large amounts of RAM over 4GB, you will need a 64-bit OS and XP has a very poor 64-bit version.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 12:50 AM

Thanks guys.

killer: Just graphic design and output. Mostly using Corel and Adobe products and RIP software for outputting files to a wide format digital printer). I will also use this machine for the internet, listening to music and using a webcam. Don't need monitor, input devices or speakers. Thinking $500-$700 usd?


DJB: I'm not concerned with lack of MS support. I've been satisfied with the speed performance of my current machine, E6750, 256mb GeForce 8600GT, two 320GB SATA2 hard drives, and 3GB of DDR2 800 RAM. The only problem with the machine is the boot issues I'm having that the P5B motherboard is apparently known for. (I've already changed the power supply and CMOS battery and ran RAM tests.) I don't do video editing. I sometimes work on a 200GB TIFF image but it's rare. Most of my artwork are vector graphics from illustrator or coreldraw.


You guys say XP will run on most hardware...what won't it run on?

I realize I can just replace the motherboard but since all the other components are already 4 years old I'd rather just get everything new.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:09 AM

My dads been using xp pro 64 bit on his system, and it runs fantastic. Unless its 64 bit, like DJB said, it wont recognize more then 3.25 gigs of ram (about) that being said, it will run on virtually all new hardware, it will just bottleneck it in a few areas, such as the 64 bit support. A lot of studies are showing that XP pro 64 bit outperforms vista 64 bit hands down, and with the exception of directx support, performs on par with windows 7, I still use it on a couple of my computers. Its not as feature rich as 7, and certainly isnt as pretty, but its still a functional OS.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:28 AM

I think if you search terms like -install xp on i3- you'll find it's not as easy as it seems.


The programs I run won't see any benefit from a 64bit OS.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:41 AM

the CPU isnt always the issue, its the chipset drivers that normally have problems as far as XP is concerned. With that being said, theres usually ways around that. I havent messed with XP on intels latest chipsets, but I have tested XP on AMDs 7xx series and 8xx series chipsets, and it works really well on both.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:47 AM

I really don't want to have to resort to using ways to get around issues. I was hoping to find information about current MB and CPU combos that'll run xp "out of the box," so to say.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 01:52 AM

I would say with AMD will work out of the box, especially with the 7xx series chipsets, their a bit older, but work great-done several builds with them. ive played a little with XP on my 890GX chipset, but not enough to know how it does performance wise, just that it will work. I Don't work much with intel, so as far as having practical experience, I have none, just that in theory, it should work.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 06:45 AM

I built an dual core Athlon/880G upgrade for a customer about 3 months ago. Installed customer's 32bit XP with no problems.

It is hard for most here to recommend a setup for you as we normally don't install XP on any new builds with the latest CPUs/chipsets. Not a knock on older stuff, just a reality. I have not installed XP on a ground up/new build since WIN7 was released. You will have to do the research yourself to see if the motherboard components are supoported by XP. Most are, an increasing number of components are not, and it isn't going to get any better for XP. When you look at motherboards, go to the manufacturer's site and verify they have XP drivers available, it is the only 100% way to verify it will work with XP.

Have you considered swapping in a new Socket 775 board?

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR2-1200-Motherboard-GA-P43-ES3G/dp/B001PKUUJA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306063971&sr=1-1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138157

or something similar. Do a quick mobo swap, and you could do a repair install of XP and be good to go for ~$80. Heck, it might even boot OK and you can install the new drivers from the CD/internet and be good to go. It happens sometimes. Just a thought.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 09:18 AM

Yeah, I think swapping the mobo is going to be what I end up doing.
Thanks for all the info and advice guys! It's much appreciated! :)

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:21 AM

I have built several quad core phenom II systems over the last year that all run XP with out a hitch. All running on the 8xx series chipsets
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