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Win 7 pc can not see win xp pc


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#1 python01

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 06:50 AM

I am trying to set up home network with my new Win 7 laptop. Previously I had XP laptop and XP desktop and they are networking fine.
Now I got Win 7 laptop. I can browse the internet so I know I have connection to router. I have set up Workgroup on the Win 7 laptop with the same name as the other computers. My network discovery is on. But I can not see the xp computers on my Win 7 laptop and I can not see the win 7 laptop on my xp machines.
Another strange thing is that I can not ping xp computers from win 7 laptop but I was able to ping the win 7 laptop from win xp laptop.
Right now I am just confused and not sure what to do.
I have change my active network to work network because I read somwhere that it should help but it did not.
Any ideas on what I should try next?
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 04:13 AM

do these articles help at all

Complete Guide to Networking Windows 7 with XP and Vista
Since there are three versions of Windows out in the field these days, chances are you need to share data between them. This link will show you how to get each version to share files and printers with one another.
Complete Guide to Networking Windows 7 with XP and Vista - How-To Geek


Share files between Windows 7 and XP
If you have a home network and are running Windows 7 and have XP on other PC(s) you might want to share files between them. This link will look at the steps to share files and hardware devices like a printer.
Share Files and Printers between Windows 7 and XP - How-To Geek
ETAF

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:46 PM

Unfortunatelly not, I have read them before and all my settings are the same as in the tutorials but still I am not able to share the folders.
Here is what I found after I posted my initial question:
On my Win 7 Computer I can see the Win XP Multimedia in network map but it is not visible when I click on Network in windows explorer.
On my Win XP multimedia I can see the Win 7 computer but when I try to click on it it says that I am not authorized to access this network device.
I have another Win XP Home which is also not networking with win 7 but I am not worrying about this one at the moment, I would be very happy if I can get the other two working right now.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:10 PM

can you ping between machines

for each machine post an ipconfig /all - that will give you the IP address of the machine , then from each machine you can PING the other machine and see if that reaches OK

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ipconfig /all
If you cannot access the internet with this PC, then you will need to paste the results into something like notepad and then copy onto a machine that can access the internet and post results here

We would like to see the results from ipconfig /all post back the results in a reply here

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD then press Enter to open a command prompt box (A new dialogue box - black with white font, will appear on screen ):

In the command prompt window that opens, type the following command:

Note that there is a space before the /ALL, but there is NOT a space after the / in the following command.

ipconfig /all > network.txt & network.txt

It will export the results to notepad and then automatically open notepad.

Now all you need to do is copy and paste those results to a reply here
to do that:
From the notepad menu - choose Edit - Select all
all the text will be highlighted
Next
From the notepad menu - choose Edit - Copy
Now go back to the forum - reply and then right click in the reply box and paste
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Ping Tests
If you cannot access the internet with this PC, then you will need to paste the results into something like notepad and then copy onto a machine that can access the internet and post results here

Start> Run {search bar in Vista}> CMD to open a DOS window and type:

Type the following command
Ping {plus the number thats shown against the IP Address shown in above ipconfig /all}
Post back the results
rightclick in the box
select all
enter
control key + C key - to copy
then reply here and
control key + V to paste
ETAF

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:43 AM

Here are the results.

ipconfig/all on desktop (Win XP):

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Peer-Peer
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Local Area Connection: Connection-specific
DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-F2-98-A1-11
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.198
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : May 14, 2011 9:07:18 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : May 21, 2011 9:07:18 AM

ipconfig/all on Laptop (Win 7):

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Laptop2

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5B97 Wireless Network Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 1C-65-9D-9E-7F-A5

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::9de0:ef92:aa14:56ef%12(Preferred)

IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.143(Preferred)

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : May-14-11 9:13:05 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : May-19-11 11:43:56 PM

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 219964829

DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-14-8C-95-77-1C-75-08-45-E9-91

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetLink ™ Gigabit Ethernet

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 1C-75-08-45-E9-91

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes



Tunnel adapter isatap.{EE115E68-F0B7-4D3E-8468-E2ADD8DC2258}:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:41:9c85:5207:1257(Preferred)

Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::41:9c85:5207:1257%13(Preferred)

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


ping result from desktop to laptop:

Pinging 192.168.0.143 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.143: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.143: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.143: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.143: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.143:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 1ms

ping result from laptop to desktop:


Pinging 192.168.0.198 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.198: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.198: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.198: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.198: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.0.198:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 1ms

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 01:20 PM

have you disabled password protected file sharing in windows 7 ? as outlined in etaf's second link in post two.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 01:29 PM

Yes, password protected sharing is turned off.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 03:50 PM

click on view workgroup computers (left pane win XP)

\\machinename into explorer (are files shown or are you asked for user/pass)

step 4 in first post here
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpronetworking/thread/033c418b-1096-4df7-bfad-fd3d431f3cd5

do you have third party firewall or Norton security or the like ?

Edited by caperdog, 14 May 2011 - 03:51 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2011 - 04:35 PM

I can see the win 7 laptop in my network window on xp desktop.
When I type \\Laptop2 (win 7 machinename) into explorer it says it can not be found or is not available. When I click on the icon it says I don't have permission to access the resource.
No firewalls or security on win 7 computer, only virus scanner on win xp desktop.
The folder is already shared with everyone.
I see everywhere that I should see security tab in folder properties, I have only "Library" tab under properties. Not sure why but I have to go to "share with" - "specific people" in order to ad "everyone".

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:34 PM

ok, so since your original post you can now ping xp from win7 and vise versa.
XP Network Places shows win7 laptop. (but cannot access win7 shares ?) you should have access to public folder.

wait, i think i found something. you may be clicking on the wrong icon to share. paste from another site....

Yes it is. I used it here on this Windows 7. You are clicking on the wrong icon, like I said in my reply.
In Windows Explorer click on Computer in the L/H pane. Than expand Local Disk C (or whatever your primary partition is called). Then click on Users Then click on your User account. Right-click on THAT Documents folder and see if the Location tab appears in properties.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 07:52 PM

I finally got my network fixed, hopefully for good.
What I think was the problem was the NodeType, I had broadcast on win 7 and peer-peer on xp.
Interesting thing is that it did not start to work right away after changing from peer-peer to broadcast on xp, although I did reboot the PC after the change.
It took few hours for the win 7 to finally see the xp, not sure why the time delay.
The good thing is it works and I can move on:)
Thanks for your help.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:09 PM

Thanks for posting your solution.
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Certified CompTia Network +, A +




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