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#1 Andrew

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 12:09 PM

It's a new decade so time to build a new computer!

Here's my planned purchase, please let me know what you think; suggestions welcome:

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

CPU: Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.33GHz 6 x 256KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7980X

RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC R2 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR1600R2LV6GK


The case will be the CoolerMaster HAF922 I already have and I was hoping to use my existing Antec Earthwatts 750 PSU.


My main question is whether the i7-980x Extreme is really worth paying $1,000 for. I can get an i7-970 for a $600. What are the benefits that extra $400 would buy me besides an extra 130MHz?

Also wanting opinions on whether my existing 750 watt PSU is enough or should I get a kilowatt PSU?

Edited by hamluis, 25 May 2011 - 09:54 AM.
Moved from Buying New Computer to System Building.


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Posted 07 May 2011 - 06:44 PM

If you want a 6 core monster, then you should wait for the 2011 socket CPU to come out and i would assume it't won't cost over 1k. Or you can get quad core from the 1155 range which are pretty cheap at the moment. I am currently using this list to determine the tier for your psu and according to it, it says your one is in tier 4 which is "Not Recommend for stressful situations. May not be able to put out full rated power above room temperature, and may slightly fail to meet ATX specs.". Do you prefer ATI graphics card? If you don't then you might want to change it to 5 series for Nvidia.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 07 May 2011 - 07:29 PM

While I can't say that money is no object, I'd be willing to cough up a grand for a better CPU. What I'm not to keen on doing is waiting! :P When are these new-fangled 2011 sockets supposed to arrive?

As to GPU's, I'm partial to NVidia; I've had bad experiences with ATI and NVidia has always treated me well.

I had no idea that my PSU was so shady! :o What do you think of this one: Antec Signature SG-850 850W Continuous Power

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 09:03 PM

One of the top of line PSU, although i prefer Corsair psu but the you chose should be fine. I would say in Q4 2011 the LGA2011 socket will be released. At the moment Nvidia's driver is a bit unstable. What do you think about i7-2600K? Also you like ATI 6970?

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 07 May 2011 - 10:59 PM

Ah, the i7-2600k looks great! And much cheaper! So, unless a better suggestion comes along, I'll probably be getting s 2600k :) Q4 is too far off; I was planning on building this thing no later than the end of May/beginning of June.

As for the 6970, it looks nice yes, but I still prefer NVidia. ATI's drivers for Linux are physically painful to behold whereas NVidia's are merely uncomfortable (this will be a dual-boot or tri-boot [or more, who knows?] machine.) While I don't do much gaming on the Linux side, I do want to use a composting window manager like kwin.

One thing I forgot to mention is the hard drive. An SSD is attractive for the OS to live on, but I'm still somewhat uneasy with trusting this fairly new (compared to good ol' fashioned mechanical drives) tech. Add to that the fact that I need at least 1TB of space to be comfortable and we have a deal breaker in the cost of an SSD that size. I've heard good things about hybrid drives, though. Any thoughts about their quality, reliability, and amenability to multiple boot partitions? Or perhaps an SSD boot drive (partitioned) and a huge mechanical storage drive?

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 11:07 PM

While I do`t have plans for a multi-boot system so primary drive size is not a big concern.
My next build will have a pci-e SSD for booting.

2 Raptors, a 300 and a 600G for separate purposes. Topped of by a 1TB or larger for storage.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 11:24 PM

You could do RAID because at the moment SSD is expensive and they are still developing it.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:00 AM

sandy bridge is very good and overclocable
it's a bit cheaper



and i think the Gpu could use a push

Edited by ranget, 08 May 2011 - 01:01 AM.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:34 AM

My next build will have a pci-e SSD for booting.

I saw those in a magazine a while back. Something about the PCI-e bus being uber-fast? :woot:

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:08 AM

They use PCI-E x1 slot i think.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 06:10 AM

pci-e x4 for the one I`m looking at. Plus on board raid 0. :woot:

OCZ RevoDrive X2

Pricey? Yes. Smaller capacity? Yes. Less heat produced then a more standard RAID array? Yes. Less room taken up in case? Yes. Lower power consumption? Yes. Easier to configure then a standard RAID? Yes.

Worth the price? Personal call. :unsure:

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 07:12 AM

That is expensive for 100GB but the speed must be awesome :thumbsup:

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 07:27 AM

The price is a deterrent for many.

But, many will spend BIG $$$$ on a processor only to have it bottle necked by the hard drive, or other components.

I like bragging rights as much as the next guy. :P But properly matched less expensive parts will get you a faster PC then one high dollar part and skimping on everything else.

Example. The SSD I linked will be mated with a Phenom x6. As well as a couple more standard drives for other then the OS. All for around the same price of the top of the line Intel offering.
Benchmarking should be the only real way to tell the performance difference. When dealing with real world seat of the pants performance, no difference should be detected.
Hardware capabilities are usually far ahead of the software`s ability to use it`s full potential.

Have been very impressed my some of the build suggestions I have seen here. The probable performance vs cost has been nothing short of amazing. But it came with research and proper matching of parts.

Apologies to Andrew. Feel we are getting a bit :offtopic: :oopsign:

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 07:52 AM

Good point to make :thumbup2:

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 04:28 PM

OCZ RevoDrive X2

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But, as you say, very pricey.




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