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#1 1102

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 08:46 AM

Good Morning, for the past 5 or so days my computer downloads windows updates when shutting down, then when I re-start the update begins with: "Preparing to configure Windows. Do not turn off your computer", then it goes to "Configuring Windows updates. 0% configured. Do not turn off your computer", then the message "Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes. Do not turn off your computer". The entire process of pushing the on-button to the last message takes a little more than 6 minutes, after this time the computer does go to the desktop and things seem to work just fine. All other previous updates have gone just fine until the updates of last week, the last week of April.

I haven't seen this problem mentioned here, has anyone any ideas why my computer is experiencing this or what the fix may be?

Thanks for any help.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:10 AM

Well, shortly after posting my question I went to START, ALL PROGRAMS, WINDOWS UPDATE on my computer. There were 4 or 5 updates but also needed was the Service Pack 1 for Windows 7, I know I downloaded and installed that when it came out some time back but I downloaded it along with the other updates and it appears now that it is installed there are no lingering updates at this time, I have two computers both running Windows 7, one is Ultimate and the other is Professional, they both have a registry cleaner called RegVac that has always worked flawlessly on previous Windows XP systems, I recently installed it on these two computers, would it just be a coincidence or would it be possible RegVac uninstalled Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 thus not allowing the most recent updates to install correctly? All previous weekly updates for Windows 7 have installed just fine.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 07:04 PM

would it be possible RegVac uninstalled

IMHO, using ANY automated registry cleaner/optimizer/fixer...etc is a lot like playing Russian Roulette...EVENTUALLY your gonna find a live chamber. BC's official stand on the use of reg cleaners, credit quietman7, reply # 3: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic378243.html/page__p__2125825__hl__using+registry+cleaners__fromsearch__1#entry2125825

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

:step1: Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

:step2: Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

:step3: Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the Registry.

:step4: Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

:step5: The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.



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Posted 03 May 2011 - 08:36 AM

I've read similar issues of using a registry cleaning program, the reason I've been using one even after reading the warnings is I like to keep a clean machine and if it appears to get rid of trash my machine no longer needs it makes me feel better. However, now I see the damage that can be done alright, and even though RegVac keeps an Undo file I didn't use it.

I am quite sure it was the registry cleaner that did the damage, both computers were running fine before the registry cleaner installation, both computers exhibited the same problems after the registry cleaner installation and cleaning, both computers seem to be running normal once again after reinstalling the Windows 7 Service Pack 1.

Thank you for the reply and the links, I will no longer be using the registry cleaner.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 04:47 PM

The problem with registry cleaners getting rid of trash is the program decides what is trash. When people use it on auto nobody knows what it has done. The registry is only a place to be if that person is trained in such things. Their are many on this website who are trained. Most are like me not trained. These programs in the hands of untrained people damage many,many, many operating systems. You found out the hard way. Hopefully many will read your post and learn the easy way.




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