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#1 Nuker

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 05:28 PM

Hello,

System details:

I have a Dell XPS 1647 (i5 2.27 GHz, 4.00GB RAM), running Windows 7 64-bit (and Ubuntu 10.07, installed via wubi.exe - double boot). I bought it last summer.
I have a 500 HDD partitioned in 3:
  • Windows 7 OS (C:)
  • My work space (D:)
  • Ubuntu 10.07 OS (G:)

The problem:

I didn't shut down my laptop for about 10 days I think (I was only putting it into sleep mode, without turning it off). Yesterday, I had to restart it in order to get into Ubuntu; after restarting again, to get into Windows, I experienced a very slow boot. The problem was right after I logged in into my user account: everything was loading so slow. I had to wait about 8 minutes to finish the whole boot ("finish" means to see that the HDD is not writing / reading stuff - the little light is off; also, now the time improved a bit, it's around 4 minutes). I am able to move the cursor along the screen, to draw those rectangles on the desktop, but I can not open anything, neither can I right click (it is VERY "laggy"). After those 8 (4 now) minutes, everything works fine, I have no problem with it.

What my startup programs usually are:

These are the applications that I wanted to run on startup (I am aware of the others, but I thought it might be useful to specify them from now):
  • NOD32 (antivirus)
  • Rainlendar (interactive calendar for the desktop)
  • Dropbox (online data storage)
  • 4 Windows 7 gadgets (2 clocks, 2 weathers gadgets)

What I did:

So, I booted into safe-mode to check what the problem is. It booted pretty fast, obviously.
I cleaned the temp files with ATF Cleaner (similar to CCleaner).
I scanned the system with Malwarebyte's and SpyBot Search and Destroy but they found nothing (except for some cookies from SpyBot).
Then, I started to change the startup processes and services from msconfig. I disabled most of the non-Microsoft services but didn't seem to help. Same with the processes (I also disabled the antivirus).
I did memory scan and files integrity (I think this is how it's called...) from safe mode. Also chkdsk. Neither of them reported any kind of error. I also used the Windows Repair Tool to check for hard drive errors (it was a blue screen, not in the actual OS). No negative results. I also wanted to try a defragmentation on the OS partition (C:), but when I analyzed it, it said that it is only 1% fragmentatened.

Conclusion:

From what I have observed from all of these restarts and testings, it seems like the 4 Windows 7 Gadgets are the ones that load the last (along with the internet connection); the antivirus loads the first.

I just want to be sure that everything is fine with the laptop, so, if you can please help me to some test or try to improve the booting time, I would highly appreciate it.

Thank you very much for your time,
Nuker.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 10:07 PM

Running Soluto will give a detailed breakdown of how much time each of your programs, services, and processes are adding to your boot time. It even lets you disabled some of them, if you want. I've had good success with it. :)
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:42 AM

Hey,

Thank you for your reply - that tool is very useful, but I think I need more assistance / something more powerful. Here is what it happens: the software tells me that it is loading in 1:50 minutes, but for some reason, the HDD is still running and everything is almost froze even after that time; it is like this until minute 5 or so. But there was one more thing - I noticed that I didn't really re-enable my antivirus after my testings... so now, when I did it, it takes 8 minutes again to boot everything (this means, after 8 minutes from the time I insert my password, I am able to browse my computer...).

If I can get some more assistance, please.

Thank you for your time,
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:46 AM

You're running NOD32, right?
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 12:30 PM

Yes, I am running NOD32.

I also tried right now to go into Safe Mode, disable all the non-MS services and restart it - it took 3-4 minutes to boot.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:18 PM

I have an idea of who can better help you with this...

Hang on while I get him. :)
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:20 PM

Thank you so much :)

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:21 PM

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:23 PM

keyboardNinja asked me to take a look here.

Is booting to Safe Mode still fast?

If so ( I know, you tried to disable all non-MS services)

Go Start>Run (Start Search in Vista), type in:
msconfig
Click OK (hit Enter in Vista).

Click on Startup tab.
Click Disable all
IMPORTANT! In case of laptop, make sure, you do NOT disable any keyboard, or touchpad entries.


Click Services tab.
Put checkmark in Hide all Microsoft services
Click Disable all.

Click OK.
Restart computer in Normal Mode.

NOTE. If you use different firewall, than Windows firewall, turn Windows firewall on, just for this test, since your regular firewall won't be running.
If you use Windows firewall, you're fine.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:25 PM

Yeah, Safemode is still booting up pretty fast.

While I am doing what you suggested, I want to mention (forgot in the beginning), that something weird also happens in msconfig window: the Services load instantly, while the STARTUP processes list loads in like 2 minutes... I can see only about 7-8 processes before all of them are loaded... (the processor is running when I am in that window so I guess something is wrong... I should have them instantly as well...).

I am going to disable, as you told me... and come back with the results.

Thank you for assisting me.
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:33 PM

Ok, I just did it - booted in... let's say around 1 minute. Pretty fast and without freezing moments or stupid stuff...

Went to msconfig to check if the STARTUP tab still loads the processes very slow; the problem is still there - the processes are loaded in the list in about 2 minutes...

I am telling you this because it might be one of the symptoms of the problem that I have... and since I really want to find a clean solution (not reinstalling everything, since I am in college...), I hope it might be useful to debug the situation.

Thanks,
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EDIT: There are about 27 processes that go in the STARTUP list. In Safe mode, it "pre-loads" about 7-8 of them and then I have to wait; in Normal mode, I can see 3 and then I have to wait.

Edited by Nuker, 29 April 2011 - 08:37 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:38 PM

Well, I'm not sure yet, what would be a reason for slow "Startup" tab population, but it looks like one of your startups is causing your slow startup.

Now, grab some coffee and be patient...
Go back to msconfig>Startup tab and re-enable ONE startup out of those, you just disabled.
Restart computer.
Doing fine?
If so, re-enable next startup, restart computer....and so on until you'll find the culprit.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:41 PM

With all the services disabled? (I am thinking of NOD32 which will produce a kernel error because it will fail to connect to the kernel without its service).

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:42 PM

Yes, leave services as they're.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:20 AM

WOW.
So, here is what was happening... lol. I started doing what you suggested but the system still seemed to load kind of slow... And I thought of a relationship between the fact that the process' list is not loading and the slow boot time - there has to be a process there that screws up both of them (because of the waiting time in both situations; probably the OS has to go through all the processes - to "index" them - before displaying them in the Startup list). So, analyzing the processes list, I said Daemon Tools was the biggest threat for the system. I uninstalled it (took a while, LOL... so I was happy while waiting...) and now everything runs instantly lol. Booting is < 1 minute haha :).

Now, I am going into safe mode to re-enable the services (because, for some reason, I can not enable the kernel service for NOD32 from normal mode). But everything seems to be fine now.
I will give another update after I put everything as it should be...

Thanks,
Nuker

EDIT: I read somewhere that after the SP1 update on Win7, some *32 processes were running awkwardly (including Daemon Tools). So, since when I did my restart, some updates were installed, I guess this may have been the reason why that restart triggered the whole head-ache that I had for the last few days lol...

Edited by Nuker, 30 April 2011 - 12:22 AM.





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