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#1 ruffnut

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:07 PM

Hello everyone, this is my first post on this wonderful forum.
All my questions have been answered up till now by searching thru the threads, but not this time.

I have Vista home premium 32 bit with 3GB ram

My question is, is there another way to clear the ram memory cache without rebooting?

I have tried CLEARMEM in a batch file with no success.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 12:17 AM

My question is, why?
Vista handles RAM in different way, that previous Windows versions.
It'll cache as much RAM, as it can, so it's ready to go, when it's needed.
More info: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/why-does-vista-use-all-my-memory.html

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:23 AM

Thanks for that, Broni, I didn't know it was normal for the memory to fill up like that.
My sidebar CPU meter shows the same readings as the task manager performance chart.
That was what alerted me to the fact.
Thanks again.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 05:36 AM

Broni, sorry to bother you again, but as the RAM fills up, my computer seems to slow down, is this normal?
If I reboot (hence clear the memory) the speed is vastly improved.That was the reason for the query.
Mate, I'm old school, DOS, dBase etc .... not trying to be clever or difficult, nor am I computer illiterate, I just want to understand.
Regards, Terry

Edited by ruffnut, 24 April 2011 - 05:37 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2011 - 06:22 AM

The more ram the system uses, the more efficiently it's running. It sounds as though something else may be at play here. What are your system specs & how much ram do you have? Also, please do a full system scan with BOTH your anti virus app and with MalwareBytes.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 06:46 AM

G'day Allan, thanks for the reply.
Vista home premium, 32 bit, 3GB ram.
300Gig, 88% free space
Avast Anti-virus & ZoneAlarm Firewall

Mate, have run Malwarebytes, SUPERantispyware, Avast .... I have gone thru the registry, stopped all unneccessary programs, been thru the firewall permissions ...
have eyeballed the root directory many times, all seems ok.
I run Ccleaner every time I close the web down, lock the firewall when not in use.
Also have RegCure, (which in my opinion is a non-event), Ccleaner registry cleaner is better.

I'm not a kid, ie no games, no twitter, face book or any such things ...

I can find nothing abnormal. Any suggestions you have are welcome.

Edited by ruffnut, 25 April 2011 - 06:20 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:43 AM

Hey Allan AL2, or if you are a civvy, Mk2 ..... Firefox is causing the problem!
When shut down, it's memory cache stays open.

Which get's me back to square one, does it not? Wonder what Broni has to say about that?

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 10:19 AM

Also have RegCure, (which in my opinion is a non-event), Ccleaner registry cleaner is better.


Registry cleaners/optimizers are not recommended for several reasons:

  • Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

    The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.
  • Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.
  • Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.
  • Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.
  • The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".
Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.


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Now, with 3GB of RAM, memory shouldn't be an issue at all.
Something may be eating your CPU cycles, rather.

Download Process Explorer: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
Unzip ProcessExplorer.zip, and double click on procexp.exe to run the program.
Click on View > Select Colunms.
In addition to already pre-selected options, make sure, the Command Line is selected, and press OK.
Go File>Save As, and save the report as Procexp.txt.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 11:24 AM

Allan and Broni,

It is now 0215 here, I must go to bed.
I will check all your info out tomorrow.
Broni, your remarks re reg cleaner are invaluable to me .... I will digest them, thanks mate.
Many thanks to both of you ..... happy easter

Edited by ruffnut, 25 April 2011 - 06:19 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2011 - 12:26 PM

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 01:23 PM

Happy Easter to you.

BTW, which version of Firefox are you using?

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 07:09 PM

Hey ruffnut,
Try this one I've been using for ages.
It uses the task scheduler once every half hour and doesn't run in the background.
Works a treat. Cleanmem,
Website...
http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem
Review...
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-memory-optimizer.htm

Cheers

Edited by Brewster Down Under, 24 April 2011 - 07:25 PM.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 07:34 PM

I have to strongly disagree with the above advice.
It'd actually reverse, what Windows Vista and Windows 7 is designed for, regarding RAM handling.

It may make sense in previous Windows versions, if a computer doesn't have enough RAM, but with today's RAM prices, I see no need for any program like that at all.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 12:43 AM

Read all the info on registry cleaners ... have uninstalled the one I had. Scarey stuff!
I have attached the report from Process Explorer.

Oh, and my Firefox version is 3.6.16.
I tried 4, but went back.

I've said it before I know, but I do appreciate the help.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 12:58 AM

G'day Sandgroper .... thanks all the same mate, but I'll give it a miss just now.

Don't take offense, but these blokes know infinitely more about modern computers than me, so I'll be guided by them.

Good to hear from you though.




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