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#1 Guest_RadioNorthsea_*

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 02:49 PM

Hello,


I have a question about Ram cards:


I have in my house; it is a new one what I did buy in January this year a Kingston 2 gb Ram card.
The motherboard what I will buy has 16 gb internal memory, I think about for buying Windows7 64 bits version and did read that Windows7 64 bit use 2 gb Ram, so I thought, I buy an extra Ram card of 2 gb, okay but I saw just a 4 gb Ram card from mark Mushkin.
Those Ram cards are not the same mark.
Is that a point when I put in a Kingston 2 gb Ram in the Ram slide and than the other when I buy this; Mushkin 4 gb Ram card.?
I have than 6 gb Ram, I think that I have than more than enough Ram.
From my opinion say I: :nono: that is not a point, because a Ram is a Ram from the same memory type. DDR3.
But I have seen strange things in my life, so as Amateur on Hardware area say I, it is better that I ask a question for this and after the reply do I know where I stay, than that I don't do that and I have maybe a problem.
I can tell you that I am not happy when I got problems after building by that.
Do I may your answer, please?

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 07:42 PM

Your saying that your motherboard supports up to 16GB of RAM. 4GB of RAM is sufficient. Yes, you should purchase Windows 7 64bit version as it can use more then 4GB of RAM.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 08:41 PM

Mixing different brands may not cause a problem, but sometimes slight differences can create an incompatibility that is best avoided. So it's best to keep the same brand if possible, but more important to have the same capacity.

Having one 2GB and one 4GB will reduce the performance of most boards. Depending on the design of motherboard you get, memory modules are intended to operate in groups of 2 (dual channel) or 3 (triple channel) which need to be the same size and should be very similar. Specially matched kits of memory are sold for this purpose, to make sure they work together well.

If unmatched memory (but still the correct type) is operated together, it won't do any damage, but the system's performance or stability may be reduced.

Edited by Platypus, 21 April 2011 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:28 PM

You can mix and match different RAM brands and even capacities and speeds. However, in a dual or triple channel configuration, all RAM sticks must match, which is easiest to do with sticks from the same manufacturer and model. If you do mix the RAM types, the speed of the RAM sticks will slow to the speed of the slowest card. You can also use a single stick of memory, which isn't going to impact real world performance, or you can use matched pairs if you are using all but Intel i7 CPU's.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:37 PM

That Mushkin and Kingston Ram sticks should be fine.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 05:26 AM

Thanks for your information.
Yes I find W7 64-bit version also important.
I mean: It is fine when you have a lot of Ram and when you have need more Ram, that you can build to 16 Gb.
With the 32-bits version is this not possible, the 32-bits version read only to 3.5 gb.
Also is it important that the user keep using the Ram what the mobo supported.
The mobo what I want have, support the next types Ram: DDR3 2000/1333/1066
I have what I said earlier, a Kingston DDR3 Ram card and the type is 1333 .
When I put in the slide DDR3 1333 and a DDR3 1066, that gives a conflict.
When I put in a DDR3 1033 Ram card in the slide, than it don't work.
Because, the mobo don't support the 1033 Ram card.*
*= I said this, because I was looking again for the information by the Mushkin DDR3 Ram card and there stays that it is for DDR3 memory type 1033.
So I must looking further for a 4 gb DDR3 Ram card for that motherboard and maybe is it wise; I don't know, that I buy the Ram card from the same factory.
But the question is: Has Kingston a 4 gb Ram card, I don't know.
Okay guys, thanks again for your information.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 06:04 AM

If you have 2 different speed then it would go the slowest speed which is 1066.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 10:12 AM

If you have 2 different speed then it would go the slowest speed which is 1066.


Could be.
I am glad that there do exist Computer forums just like B.C. where I can ask information about some things, that makes for me easier with making Computers.
But I have still a question about the Ram cards and in that question, play I in an example a man that is self-willed and do know better:

Example: I didn't ask questions about the Ram and I am not watching with what I do: In slide 1 do I the 2 gb Ram card; blue dimm slot and in slide 2; the black one, do I the other Ram card, what will be happen than.?
For the color group give I the link:

http://www.mycom.nl/Product/Componenten-Moederbord/Asus-M4A88TDV-EVOUSB3,sAM3/282239

It is logical that when you put in a Ram card in the blue dimm slot, that you put also the other Ram card in the other blue dimm slot, but back to my example where I playing a self-willed person with the thought, I do know better, I have no need information, what for problems get the self-willed man.?

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 05:59 PM

Both Platypus and DJPace07 have covered the important points regarding the need for matched modules to utilize dual or triple channel operation. The advantage in running in either of these is that they reduce the bottle neck between the CPU and the RAM. As killer pointed out, when you mix module speeds the faster module will underclock to that of the slowest module.




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Posted 22 April 2011 - 06:36 PM

If you install the Ram in the other color slot it will not run in dual channel or triple channel but it will probably run in single channel. So you would want to install the Ram on the same color slot.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 03:58 AM

Thanks for the information.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:16 AM

No problems :)

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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