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How do I identify plug ins?


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#1 honu1

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:36 AM

I am currently using Firefox4.0. I do have flash player (Adobe) installed. I was just checking out some treadmills+clicked on a link to see a certain type in motion/operate. That infamous notice at the top of my screen said I had to install a missing plug in to view the link.

For security purposes, How do I know a requested plug in is safe? I have no idea what plug in is being asked for nor why.
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 08:10 PM

Hi honu1,
I don't think we can tell. For motion it's usually the Adobe flash nightmare. And Adobe has the plugin for installing so long as you click on "other operating system" or "other browser" (than IE)

Yet, I might install the legitimate adobe flash-trash from the legitimate Adobe site and still get the error on some sites. Other times it works.
I'd never click on 'download Adobe flash' button on any website that tells me to. Just don't trust them.

If it doesn't work, the site is bad or how the site implements the use of flash code is bad. I usually give up, try another site that works. Lost sales to badly designed sites :)

A browser I use, Opera, and Avira's antivirus will warn if I click on a site or a link I shouldn't, still it is a bit of concern here considering how fast the scumware writers defeat all security.

Perhaps someone here will tell us exactly how to deal with motion and flash and what's safe, as what I just wrote are my obesrvations and a bit of frustration.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 08:25 PM

What's the web site link?
We can check what's going on there.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:01 AM

Darn, I already deleted the newsletter the link came in.
I didn't stop to think that the members here at B.C. could check out suspicious stuff for me like that!I'll keep it in mind for future reference.
Wait a minute...I just happened to think if I could go back in the newsletter aschives,I just might be able to find it.
I'll post back here to let you know.
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:17 AM

Okay I found it! I'm looking for a treadmill for my dog. In the Mercola Healthy Pets newsletter there were a few links given. The one in question is:
https://pawwws.com/ When I clicked on a heading on the left side to See Pawwws Work, that's when I get the prompt to 'click here' to add the missing plug-ins to actually see how the treadmill works.

The actual link in the address bar is:
https://pawwws.com/index?option=com_content&view=article&id=5

This is what shows up in the address bar(?) on top in my browser anyway.
Thanks for be willing to check this for me. Anxious to learn what this is all about.
honu1 :busy:

Edited by honu1, 01 April 2011 - 07:17 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM

That particular page opens very slowly for me and the video requires Windows Media Player plugin.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:37 AM

Is it WMP or Silverlight? Silverlight is a Microsoft product similar to Flash. If you want to view a video that uses Silverlight, you need to download it from Microsoft. It's not as common as Flash but it is out there.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:45 AM

When you right click on the video and you click "About", it says WMP.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:09 PM

It works fine for me. I'm not sure why it wouldn't play for anyone. Unlike Flash or Silverlight, you shouldn't need to download anything to play it. What exactly is it doing?

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:23 PM

I don't know what it's supposed to do as it wanted me to install pug-ins+that makes me nervous :o
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:07 PM

This may be in the picture for me - Windows Media Player is not allowed to leave local host in my various rules, and I certainly do not have a WMP plugin enabled.

Just for you, honu1 :) I enabled javascript because of this message
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/917/pawwws.png

No go. Their site has errors. If they can't write compilant code, don't deal with them
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1558/pawwws2.png

Perhaps IE will work for you if you insist. Or if your browser permits (Opera does but I don't bother in this one) to send them immediately what failed you can submit that this site stinks. They claim they work with sites who don't know how to write code.

Far as you know is this a safe site? $600 for a dog gadget? are they serious?

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:21 PM

that particular page is listed by WOT as "good", so I don't think, there is any risk by installing some plugin.

These are media listed on that site:
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/favicon.ico
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/back.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/header.jpg
https://pawwws.com/index#
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/top.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/repeat_back.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/mid_repeat.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/top_bdr.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/mid_bdr.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/arr_orang.gif
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/liback.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/largetreadmillpromo.jpg
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/bdr_bottom.jpg
http://www.pawwws.com/video/PAWWWSVideoWeb-1.wmv
https://pawwws.com/templates/beez/images/footer.jpg

I highlighted the only one (video), which would require any plugin (WMP in this case).

In FF go Tools>Add-ons>Plugins and see, if you have "Microsoft Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin" listed.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:40 PM

No, even doing a search as you mentioned doesn't bring up the media player.....sigh. FF 4.0 doesn't leave me happy lately.
And tos226,yeah,they are pricy,but keep in mind they are electric treadmills,same as used for humans. I'm just trying to find the best deal.
Why do you suppose Win 7 doesn't support a media player?
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:48 PM

Okay Broni,what magic did you work here? When I clicked on your highlighted link from your post I was asked if I wanted to open with windows media player+went right to the video! So why on earth would it ask me for a plug in the first time around?
I'm beginning to think my system is "possessed"! :o
Thanks to you both for taking the time for me.Strange Opera would look at it as Java script.
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Posted 01 April 2011 - 08:21 PM

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