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#1 alstpeter

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 05:05 PM

Hello I bought a MSI 785GM-E51 motherboard, with 8 gbs of G-Skill ram, and a Phenom II x2 processor. This thing should be a mean machine and i don't know whats wrong. Is there anyone out there that can point me into the right direction as to why the machine I just dumped a bunch of money into is running like my old junky one. Thanks

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 05:05 PM

Please perform the following, so that we can get the exact specs of your computer. This will better assist us in helping you more.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 06:47 PM

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 07:55 PM

I highly recommend that you upgrade to SP1, and what games are slow. Your computer is what I would call an entry level gaming machine.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 08:26 PM

Im just trying to play some racing games, and hellgate london, diablo 2, and hopefully diablo 3 when it comes out, and some other new stuff. If this thing would run em fast enough, im downloading the service pack for windows 7 thanks.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 09:17 PM

Looking over Speccy...

You're using an ATI Radeon HD 4200, which is slow for gaming. You do have a PCI-Express X16 slot on your motherboard you can use for graphics cards, if it isn't already occupied and if you have a good enough power supply.
You're also using Windows 7 32-bit on a PC with 8GB of RAM, which, to use 4GB or more of RAM, requires 64-bit.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 11:57 PM

Also a "mean" machine would also probably have a quad core processor or 6 core processor.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 08:25 AM

I do have a geforce 9500gt but i got the mothorboard cus its also got the hdmi. Will i still be able to use the hdmi if i have my video card in. and to the 64 bit thing i wasn't sure if all my stuff could handle 64 bit so i put on 32 just to be sure. Do you think that if i installed the 64 bit my computer would run better? A "mean machine" to me is something thats gonna play my games and not skip every 5 seconds. I wish i could afford an I7 or something beastly but im on a budget, so i guess i should've said a cheap mean machine. Thanks for all your help so far, the SP1 didn't do much of a difference that i noticed.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:13 AM

SP1 is still vital to the secure operation of your computer. Please do perform the upgrade, and use your 9500gt.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:14 AM

Its unlikely you would be able to use the onboard video with a dedicated card, however you can get a DVI to HDMI adaptor pretty cheap, many cards come with them, and that card should have support for it with no issues. As far as 64 bit, well your running 8 gigs of ram, which means your not using 4 (32 bit OSs will only support up to like 3.25-3.75 gig MAX) So you would notice a performance increase just by switching to 64 bit. As far as compatibility, Ive been running 64 bit since vista came out with few issues, fewer still when I made the switch to 7.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 03:37 PM

Thank you crypto and patriot. I did the service pack last night, and like I said I haven't noticed a difference but im gonna keep it on. As for installing the 64 bit... I want to install it but im scared haha im gonna install my card tonight and do some research on 64 bit, and thanks for letting me know that 4 gbs of my ram wasn't being used.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 03:54 PM

If you have a 64 bit copy, then backup your data and give it a try is my advice, worse comes to worse you can go back to the 32 bit.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:48 PM

Thanks patriot I think im going to do that after I figure out why my geforce isn't working I shutdown and unplugged my pc then plugged it into the slot and and it didn't give me any display. So I installed the driverss while using my old hdmi. Plugged back in the DVI and still no display.... any thoughts would be appreciated im about to make a backup and install 64. Wish me luck.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:09 PM

You recently reinstalled your old GeForce 9500, which is a dedicated add-in graphics card that fits into a PCI Express slot, right? Did you remember to uninstall the ATI/AMD drivers before installing the graphics card and did you install the Nvidia software afterwards? Don't worry about 64-bit, I haven't had any issues with it, everything runs well and I've been using it since Vista's launch. The only two exceptions are with deep level security programs and very, very old games from the 90's. BTW, you are using the MSI 785GM-E51 motherboard. You have the capability to use Phenom II X4 and Phenom II X6 CPU's at a later date if you want to make it a meaner game machine, you would also probably want to consider a better graphics card before doing that though.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 12:25 AM

A Phenom II X4 or Phenom II X6 would make it a meaner game machine but if you do plan to go with the upgrade, you first need to set a budget.

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