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#1 amazingdollar

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 11:45 AM


First please do not ask me to go to user accounts/change administrator/
create password. The last time I did that I couldn't log on even
having the password, and I had to re-install XP Home.

I need to create a password so when I want to "repair" XP Home, I
will have a password. It's needed to use "repair" after pressing
F12 when computer starts.

Thank you, Mary

Edited by amazingdollar, 28 March 2011 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 28 March 2011 - 11:51 AM

System manufacturer and model?

What does your manual say about this repair function?

Typically...no one needs to create a password for system access, it's just security. I've never heard of anyone needing to create a password to repair a system, but I don't claim to know it all :).

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:26 PM

Hello and welcome to the forum!

As I understand your post, you are not looking to password protect the user access on the system.
I think what you are referring to is the system restore feature which basically puts the system into an "out of the box" state. Some manufacturers use F10 or F12. It restores the system from a hidden recovery partition on the hard drive.

To my knowledge there is no way to password protect that.
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:14 PM

I need a password when I log into Windows. I'm the administrator.
I need a password so when I use the F12 to 'repair' a Windows XP
installation, it will repair.

It won't repair unless I have a password. I've tried to repair
w/out a password in F12 {when the Dell logo shows}, and
it will not work.
Take care.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:24 PM

"I need a password when I log into Windows"
This would be a user account password created as you said in post #1

"It won't repair unless I have a password. I've tried to repair
w/out a password in F12 {when the Dell logo shows}, and
it will not work."
This is actually a restore and not a repair. It reloads the system to "out of the box" as I said above.
For clarification, you are saying that you want it to prompt for a password when you press F12 after the Dell screen. Since that function is built into the BIOS I dont think it can be done.

Thanks

Edited by Eyesee, 28 March 2011 - 04:30 PM.

In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 05:58 PM

You said "For clarification, you are saying that you want it to prompt for
a password when you press F12 after the Dell screen. Since that function
is built into the BIOS I dont think it can be done."

Are you saying that I cannot enter a password when I press F12 after the
Dell screen shows? If that's true why does the "repair" ask for one?
Thanks for answering, Mary

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:33 PM

In all the years that I have been doing support I have never seen any system prompt for a password to run the system recovery. Maybe what you are seeing isnt a recovery password but something else instead.

What does the screen look like and what does the entire thing say?

Also, what is the model number of this system?

Edit: Ive posted this in our Advisors section to see if we can get additional assistance.

Edited by Eyesee, 29 March 2011 - 12:41 PM.

In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:46 PM

Maybe what you are seeing isnt a recovery password but something else instead.


I think the OP is confusing the BIOS password with system recovery.
If you need to remove the BIOS password, you just need to take out the CMOS battery for a few minutes.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:58 PM

That is what I am thinging as well.
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:49 PM

If you need to remove the BIOS password, you just need to take out the CMOS battery for a few minutes.



That may or may not work.

But in this instance hardly necessary as I do believe we are confusing two different things as stated.

Entry into the BIOS vs entry into System Restore.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 10:47 AM

I see the black screen when I turn on my computer with the XP CD in the drive.
There you can choose to boot from CD, reformat, and other things. I
wanted to choose 'repair' but it asked for a password which I don't have.
Thanks very much, Mary

In all the years that I have been doing support I have never seen any system prompt for a password to run the system recovery. Maybe what you are seeing isnt a recovery password but something else instead.

What does the screen look like and what does the entire thing say?

Also, what is the model number of this system?

Edit: Ive posted this in our Advisors section to see if we can get additional assistance.



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Posted 30 March 2011 - 12:14 PM

Second request...system manufacturer and model?

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 12:57 PM

Can you please tell us the entire contents of that screen to assist us in determining what you are looking at.
I know of no XP startup screen that lists format as an option.

Knowing the make/model of the system would help us out a great deal as well.
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:07 AM

I have a Dell 2400.
After I turn on computer with the XP disk in the drive and press F12,
I get this:

Boot Device Menu
1. Normal
2. Dkiskette Drive
3. Hard-Disk Drive C
4. System Setup
6. IDE Drive Diagnostics
7. Boot Utility Partition

Next Screen:
Welcome to setup
This portion of the setup prepares Microsoft {R} Windows {R} XP
to run on your computer.
To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER {ME: this is what I would
press to format my drive. I have to purposely go there
for it to work}
To repair a windows installation using Recovery Console, Press R
To quit setup w/out installing Windows XP, press F3

Next screen to repair:
The Recovery Consol provdes system repair & recovery functionality.
Tylpe EXIT to quit the Recovery Console & restart the computer.

I press R and get:
1: c\: Windows
Which installtion would you like to log onto {to cancel press ENTER}
Type the Administration password


So that's what I see after pressing F12 when my computer starts with
the Boot CD in the drive.

Thanks much, Mary

Can you please tell us the entire contents of that screen to assist us in determining what you are looking at.
I know of no XP startup screen that lists format as an option.

Knowing the make/model of the system would help us out a great deal as well.


Edited by amazingdollar, 05 April 2011 - 08:09 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:53 AM

Is it possible you are selecting Recovery Console/Repair to early in the process?

Proceed as if you were going to perform a clean install. Keep hitting enter. It may take a few times of this until you get to a menu that lets you choose to do a repair without using the Recovery Console.

Try it and let us know what happens.

Edited by Queen-Evie, 05 April 2011 - 02:00 PM.





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