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Upgrading XP Home to SP3


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#1 peter41

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 11:20 AM

I need to upgrade XP Home edition from SP2 to SP3. I keep automatic updates on (for highly critical items), but have yet to agree to download/ install SP3.

However, in going to the Windows Updates site and reviewing my updates history, I see that on 17 Sep 2008 there is an entry for SP3 and next to it the 'failed' symbol and a question mark. I don't kmow what I am to read into this.

I also note that when the Updates website does its check on what I've got, it intially comes back warning me that SP2 is no longer supported, and advising downloading/installing SP3. Fair enough,but I notice that the download size and time are both quoted as '0', and the information icon when clicked says SP3 is already downloaded and selecting automatic download/install will complete the installion.

Can anyone cast any light on this?

I would add that I really don't want to go for an automatic install - I'd much rather have a downloaded file which I can run with the PC offline and internet security package disabled. Could I simply download (not install) the full SP3 from the Download Centre, ie disregard whatever was or wasn't downloaded in 2008?

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 11:28 AM

http://www.ghacks.net/2008/05/07/standalone-windows-xp-sp3-download-list/

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:05 PM

System manufacturer and model?

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:39 PM

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic146857.html/page__view__findpost__p__824914
Bleeping Computer also has a Tutorial on installing SP3 if you wish to read it -

Please, also respond to any questions from hamluis -

Thank You -

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 08:04 PM

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package (316mb)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File (544mb)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=2FCDE6CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overview (docx, pdf or xps)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110

on 17 Sep 2008 there is an entry for SP3 and next to it the 'failed' symbol....I notice that the download size and time are both quoted as '0', and the information icon when clicked says SP3 is already downloaded and selecting automatic download/install will complete the installion


Interesting...The installed SP3 is (maybe) sitting dormant somewhere on your harddrive for 2 1/2 years? Let's see where Louis is going with this.


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Posted 15 March 2011 - 07:49 AM

Dell - Installing SP3 - http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&cs=04&dl=false&l=en&s=bsd&docid=47DABAC4EAEE89F3E040A68F5A282CDA&doclang=en

Dell - SP3 FAQ - http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&cs=04&dl=false&l=en&s=bsd&docid=4B7BF14FA25A4429E040A68F5A282C3C&doclang=en

SP3 Install Issues, Sysprep Used On Image - http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953356

Does your AMD-based computer boot after installing XP SP3 - Jesper's Blog - http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&softwareitem=pv-60484-2

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:03 AM

Louis,
The system make and model is a Packard-Bell ixtreme 6070 purchased in August 2003.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:22 AM

Thanks to all for your replies - I am working my way thru the links provided.

I would mention that I did many moons ago install XP2 without any problems (from a Microsoft provided CD. XP1 came pre-installed with the PC).

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 10:59 AM

That system has an AMD CPU.

If you installed XP from a genuine MS install CD, there should be no issues because of the processor.

If you installed XP from an OEM-provided install disk...there could be problems.

Did you download/install the SP3 link Allan provided?

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:37 PM

Thanks hamluis. I see that having an AMD processor could be an issue.

I looked at Allen's link (thanks Allen), but have not yet made any attempt to follow it up as yet. I'm still at the 'learning & research' stage on this.

I have made no attempt as yet to install SP3 (from any source).

My PC was purchased new from PC World in 2003 with XP pre-installed, and SP1 pre-installed. I therefore no nothing about how this was done. I do know that I personally installed SP2 without any problems from a Microsoft supplied CD, but I guess that doesn't prove anything one way or another.

As a 'naive' user I would be a bit worried about using any version of an SP3 package that didn't come from a Microsoft source, and that I couln't be confident was reasonably up to date ie certainly produced after all the problems there seemed to be with it in 2008/9.

Are we saying getting a CD from Microsoft and trying to install from that would be a risky approach?

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:41 PM

All links above lead to original versions of SP3 provided by Microsoft. In fact, there are no other versions you can obtain. And there is nothing more recent. It's either SP3 or it isn't. Please - feel 100% comfortable downloading SP3 from the link in my post above and then installing it.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:07 PM

Since you installed your current version from a MS genuine XP CD, there should be no problems. All of my systems are AMD CPUs and none of them has had any problems. The problem only relates to installs of XP done by the system manufacturer.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 03:19 PM

There's such a thing as being overcautious to the point of paranoia. There is no reason to have the system off line. I've installed SP3 on several dozen XP machines using both Windows update as well as a stand alone SP3 installer and have never encountered a problem.
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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:51 AM

Thanks for the latest posts.

Allen - if the only version of SP3 one can get is the 'original' (2008?) edition, there seem to have been a lot of potential teething troubles with that - or does the installation process automatically call down and install all subsequent SP3 patches (provided you're online)? Is a 2008 SP3 system really better/safer than an XP2 that's up to date? (With a good firewall etc, of course).

Is what I know simply as a Microsoft Service Pack CD the same thing a an 'ISO-9660 CD Image File', or is that something different?

Hamluis - your latest post is encouraging, altho it was only the XP2 update CD that I applied: the basic pre-XP2 Windows XP Home system was indeed manufacturer installed.

Strolin - as regards the 'off-line' bit, this was really brought on by reading Microsoft and others recommending that some Antivirus and internet security packages (I run Kaspersky IS) could interfere with installion and should (at your own risk!) be switched off during SP3 installion. Seemed safer to do this offline.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 12:21 PM

Peter: Pretty much all you need to know is provided in the link noknojon posted earlier (which BTW was compiled by quietman7, the BEST in the business IMHO):
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic146857.html/page__p__824914#entry824914

Much of what has been posted in this thread repeats what is contained in that topic link, there's really not much else to add at this point. Download the installer:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

Do the prep work as described. Go offline & disable what needs to be disabled. Make proper backups. Press the install button.

Just my .02




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