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#1 Nick_R_23

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 11:16 PM

I had this all typed out and my laptop deleted it, so I apologize if this sounds short or I forgot something.

I have 2 desktops in my room, one I built back around 03, and a newer one my friend gave me because he didn't use it anymore. It works fine and is fairly new, but it runs Vista (ugh!) and has a few bad capacitors on the motherboard, so I am considering some upgrading while I have the board out for repairs.

For my current setup, I basicly gutted my old computer and upgraded everything inside, so it works well but it is ugly. I used an Epox EP-8KMM3I motherboard, AMD Athlon XP 2400+, 2x 512mb PC2700, SATA card, 100GB SATA HDD, DVD-RW +R drive, and an MSI FX5200 AGP card, a 500w PSU and Windows XP Pro SP3.

The computer I got from my friend is a Compaq (yes, I know!), and has an AMD Sempron 1200 (2.1GHz, supposedly 64 bit), 2x 512mb PC2-6400, 160GB SATA HDD, SATA DVD-RW +R drive, and Vista.

The Compaq one will support up to an Athlon 64 X2 4800+, and 2x 2GB PC2-6400. I was thinking of upgrading to that CPU and RAM, then use the PSU from my old computer, and the DVD drive so I can have dual DVD-RW's. Then I want to use my 100GB HDD as the main one, wipe Vista off the 160GB, and use it strictly for backup. I don't know if I should stick with XP Pro SP3 since its an old install, just upgrade to Windows 7, or wipe the drive and start with a fresh Windows 7 install. The motherboard only has 2 SATA ports so I will have to use my SATA card to make room for the DVD drive (2 SATA HDDS, 1 SATA DVD drive, and 1 PATA DVD drive). Then upgrade to a PCI-e graphics card.

I'm kind of scared to use my old XP install swapping all this over. I've heard XP doesn't like changing out too much hardware at once. It would be a good time to go with 7, but would it be ok to write over such an old install, or would a fresh start be better? Is 7 that much better than XP anyway?

Also, I should say I use this computer mostly for internet, and occasionally movies, music, gaming, etc. So it doesn't need to be top of the line, but I'm thinking this would be a good chance to step up from my current setup for cheap. Would I really notice a difference if I went through all this?

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 11:52 PM

There should be an increase going from the Sempron to the Athlon 64 X2. You can upgrade to Windows 7 if you wish, it looks better and does more than XP and is faster than Vista. Going from XP to Windows 7 requires a clean install anyway, even with upgrade SKU's.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:01 AM

Can you also tell us what the model of the Compaq is.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:42 AM

There should be an increase going from the Sempron to the Athlon 64 X2. You can upgrade to Windows 7 if you wish, it looks better and does more than XP and is faster than Vista. Going from XP to Windows 7 requires a clean install anyway, even with upgrade SKU's.


Technically, Im going from an Athlon XP 2400+ to an Athlon 64 X2, I'm getting rid of the Sempron. I've gotten on and missed around in the new one a bit, and it feels slower then my current one. I don't know if its because of Vista or the bad capacitors or both. But if my 2400+ on XP feels faster then a 2.1GHz 64 bit Sempron, is there going to be a big difference if I go from my 2400+ on XP to the Athlon 64 X2 on Windows 7?

Can you also tell us what the model of the Compaq is.


Bottom case sticker says SR5000, and the side sticker says SR5508F, not sure which is correct.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:57 AM

The dual core Athlon would be faster on windows 7. Also what games do you plan to play?

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 01:04 AM

Nothing serious, mostly just stuff like Need for Speed and Halo. The current graphics card is a 128mb AGP 4x/8x and it barely breaks a sweat. It probably gets more of a workout watching movies then games. I do want to do dual displays though when I upgrade, I have 2 flatscreens with VGA inputs.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 01:09 AM

You can upgrade it to a Athlon 64 X2 4800+, you can upgrade your ram to 4GB pc2-6400 and upgrading your graphics card. First can check out how many watts is your power supply? Second how much do you want to spend on a new graphics card?

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 01:18 AM

You can upgrade it to a Athlon 64 X2 4800+, you can upgrade your ram to 4GB pc2-6400 and upgrading your graphics card. First can check out how many watts is your power supply? Second how much do you want to spend on a new graphics card?


I will be using my other Power Supply, its a Kingston 450w which should be enough. I'll probably get a 256mb Nvidia card at least, probably not too much more unless I find a good deal.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 02:05 AM

This graphics card should do.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 09:36 PM

Would there be a noticeable or huge difference between an Athlon 64 X2 4600+ and an Athlon 64 X2 4800+?

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 09:43 PM

Not really just higher Ghz.

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