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firewall + antivirus options


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Poll: firewall + antivirus options (4 member(s) have cast votes)

what one should i get?

  1. ZoneAlarm (1 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. PC tools (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. other (3 votes [75.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

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#1 terrordv

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:59 PM

im looking at zonealarm extreme security and Pc tools Internet Security 2011. cant figure out what one to use. im useing charter security suite right now but im haveing firewall problems and cant figure a way around it (tryed to use windows media center with my 360) and use an old tool Leaktest from GRC my firewall poped up and asked me to block it or not i blocked it and it went threw the firewall anyways.

the links to what im looking at are

zonealarm
http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-extreme-security.htm

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Pc tools
http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/

oh if needed hears my system info
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/95CeuWl4MoP5bJVKHepeIP4

Edited by Budapest, 11 March 2011 - 01:30 AM.
Moved from Win7 ~BP


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#2 Queen-Evie

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 11:18 PM

I don't have any experience with either of the firewalls you are interested in, so I cannot comment on them.

However I do have a suggestion for you.

Both are products for purchase. Both offer an free trial. My advise is for you to take advantage of the free trials. This will allow you to evaluate the program. You can find out if it's user-friendly, what features it has, how to use the features, if it plays nice with your system.

Zone Alarm is a 30 day trial.
I couldn't find anything to tell me how long the trial for PC Tools Internet Security is for.

Bonus: If you had to register to use the trial, check your email often near the end of the trial period. You might be offered a discount to purchase the product.

ZA trial download http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/anti-virus-spyware-free-download.htm

PC Tools trial download http://www.pctools.com/security-software/

If you consider other options, check to see if they also have a trial offer.

Edited by Queen-Evie, 10 March 2011 - 11:24 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2011 - 01:42 AM

Used ZA for many years.

Then they were bought by Checkpoint. IMO, have become more and more bloated and resource hungry ever since.

I am not a fan of security suites either. I have yet to find one that does everything well. One may have an excellant FW but lack in detection\removal of malware. While another may be just the opposite.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 07:11 AM

I too used ZA for years. Then it started slowing down my system. I now use Comodo free for my firewall and Microsoft Security Essentials for my antivirus. They both work pretty good, but then, I'm usually pretty careful where I go and what I do.
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 07:30 AM

What OS (Windows 7, Vista, XP) are you using?

There is always the option to use Windows built-in Firewall. Most concerns you may have heard or read about the Windows Firewall were in the XP operating system so many users were advised to use third-party alternatives. Microsoft significantly improved the firewall to address these concerns in Vista and then added more improvements in Windows 7.

Windows Vista Firewall offers two-way filtering for better security than it did in XP but it is still limited. The firewall is combined with IPsec, turned on by default and set to a basic configuration that works in tandem with the Windows Service Hardening feature. If the firewall detects activity that it considers prohibited behavior according to the Service Hardenings preset rules, the firewall will block the suspicious activity. Another feature in the Vista firewall is that it can set rules based on three different types of networks using the Rules Wizard so creating firewall rules is much simpler.

By default, most (not all) outbound filtering is turned off (outbound connections are allowed) and inbound filtering is turned on (inbound connections are blocked/not allowed). Why? This is what Microsoft has to say:

Matt Parretta, a former spokesperson for Microsoft's PR agency, Waggener Edstrom, offered this defense: "If we turned on outbound filtering by default for consumers, it forces the user to make a trust decision for every application they run which touches the network. After they upgrade to Windows Vista or purchase a new PC with that OS, they will be prompted on the first launch of every application that touches the network: Instant Messaging, IE, e-mail, Windows Media, iTunes, every self-updating app such as Adobe, and so on. Unless they click 'allow', the app will be broken and won't function properly. The out of box experience would be poor, and they would soon be desensitized to the prompts."

Although most outbound filtering is disabled, Vista’s firewall does provide limited outbound filtering which users may not be aware of as it is essentially invisible.

Jason Leznek, Microsoft senior product manager, told Computerworld that outbound filtering rules "are enabled by default for core Windows services as part of Windows Service Hardening, which enables the firewall to understand specific behaviors Windows services should have, and block them if they are doing something unexpected (ie, via an exploited vulnerability). Windows Firewall also protects the computer by blocking certain outgoing messages to help prevent the computer against certain port scanning attacks."

Outbound filtering can be configured to provide an additional layer of security and it does provide corporate and business administrators control over applications (i.e. peer-to-peer file sharing) they may want to restrict. Any such applications that require outbound access must be added to the rules list by using the firewall with the Advanced Security Microsoft Management Console (MMC). Configuration may be confusing for some and there is no practical way to to configure outbound filtering to stop all unwanted outbound connections. Inbound filtering can be turned on or off and through various tabs and configuration settings.

For more specific information about configuration and security, please refer to these articles:For an independent review read these articles (some include a response by Microsoft regarding outbound filtering as quoted above):
Windows 7 Firewall is similar to Vista and also offers two-way filtering for inbound and outbound traffic. However, Windows 7 adds a few new features in the firewall and related network-safety areas such as separate configuration settings for private (Home or Work) and public networks.

The Vista firewall was built on a new Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) and added the ability to filter outbound traffic via the Advanced Security MMC snap-in. With Windows 7, Microsoft has tweaked the firewall further and made it much more useable, especially on mobile computers, by adding support for multiple active firewall policies.

The Windows 7 Firewall refines the much-improved firewall that was included in Windows Vista, and brings its "hidden" advanced features out into the open. Many users, including some IT professionals, were unaware that you could filter outbound traffic, monitor and otherwise perform advanced configuration tasks for the Vista firewall, because none of that was apparent from the Firewall applet in Control Panel. With Windows 7, Microsoft has created a built-in host firewall that is much more functional than its predecessors and now poses a viable alternative to third party host firewall products.

What's new in the Windows 7 Firewall?

As with Vista, the basic settings for the Windows 7 firewall are accessed via the Control Panel applet. Unlike Vista, you can also access the advanced settings (including configuration of filtering for outbound connections) through the Control Panel instead of having to create an empty MMC and add a snap-in...

The Vista firewall allows you to choose whether you are on a public or private network. With Windows 7, you have three choices - public network, home network or work network. The two latter options are treated as private networks...With All-Network types, by default the Windows 7 firewall blocks connections to programs that are not on the list of allowed programs. Windows 7 allows you to configure the settings for each network type separately,...

What's new in the Windows 7 Firewall?

For information about using the Windows 7 firewall, managing settings, block programs from accessing the Internet, open/close ports or disabling firewall notifications, please refer to:For an independent review read:
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 09:04 AM

I don't like suites either. They are more prone to not playing nice with your system than stand-alone security programs.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 06:32 PM

Good firewall read, quietman7 :thumbup2:

I had used ZA back in the day then Comodo and now W7 firewall and Antivir(since04)antivirus in conjuntion with MBAM pro, no conflicts with this setup.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 06:54 PM

thank you for the input im using win7. iv used commando in the passed i didnt use windows firewall do to the way it worked in xp but ill give it a try. im already useing anti-mailware and spyware programs they are Superanti spyware, Emsisoft ant-malware, and Malwarebytes anti-malware i use them becouse my curent software dosnt pick up any malware/spyware. but what anti virus software should i use? i havent looked in to anything in a really long time so im not up to date with what good out there.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 06:58 PM

Two that are spoken of highly here are Avast free or paid version. Also Avira free or paid version as well.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 09:41 PM

thank you :)

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 10:48 PM

I voted other as I do not like suites.. Everything else i feel was covered in post 5..
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:28 PM

thank you :)


My vote was for other.Always listen to quiteman.He always knows what's best. He's my main man. What ever he says is gospel. My vote is 3rd party if your using XP3, quiteman knows!! I like Online Armor free!!




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