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The issue was, the access control tech didn't tell me when he in on the local LAN
he opens a browser and puts HTTPS://10.10.10.101 in the address bar...
As soon as I hears the "S", I forwarded port 443 to 10.10.10.101 and it worked 1st try...
The other DVR was not a secured login and I simply forwarded port 8081 to 10.10.10.100
and all was good there.