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Need Help With Ide Cables


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#1 drumnminitruckr

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 03:25 PM

so i wanted to replace my cd drive with a cd-rw drive

but i was looking around and my IDE cable and plug are 50 pin, and i believe most cd burners, atleast the one i looked at is 40 pin.

is there a cable that converts it?

or what else could i do?

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:36 PM

If you have a 50 pin you may have a SCSI CD not an IDE. If you do locate the secondary IDE connector on the motherboard. It will be next to the connector the primary IDE cable is plugged in. You can find this by following the IDE cable going out of the hard drive to the motherboard. The cable that came with the new drive should just plug in.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:37 PM

the slot for the cable my current cd driuve is using says secondary ide/ cd rom
its right next to the floppy plug and the plug for the hard drive

i could take a pic if you would like

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:51 PM

Thats ok I believe you. This is strange. The IDE is 40 pin. You should not need an adapter. The only 50pin I am aware of (and by all mean, I do not know it all) is the SCSI I.
I would ask if you have a SCSI controller on your motherboard but you just confirmed you are on the secondary IDE bus.
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 01:34 AM

my computer is a somewhat older gateway e-1400 model
the cd drive isnt a standard size, its small. kinda of like a laptop size.
if that helps any

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 07:20 AM

I found the ocumentation on your computer. The connector on the back of the drive, is it much smaller than a standard IDE connector. Compare it to the dard drive's connector.
If it is you may very well have a noteboo CD drive. Depending on the space you also may have to go back with a notebok drive. CD-RW is abot $70-+ on eBay.
The .pdf on your computer is not very clear.
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:12 AM

what i planned on doing was getting a normal size cd rw, but since it obviously wont fit in my case i was gonna get an external drive case for pretty cheap from a friend. then run the ide and power out of the original cd drive slot to the drive in the case

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:57 AM

I would recommend something like that. If you have an open PCI slot, install a USB 2.0 card. This will get you good speed. The 1.0 or 1.1 USB standard your computer is equioed with limits your CD speed to 4X.
A 2.0 USB PCI card will only be about $20 -+.
I know you want a clear answer but there are really severalgood answers. Everyone will have a little different idea on what is best. I think leaving the original CDrom and adding a 2.0 USB card is the best option.
FYI: The 4x CD-R will take 15 mins to burn a CD. Myfirst burner was a HP external 4X4X8. USB 1.0
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 04:53 PM

i went ahead and took a few pics anyway

heres the cd drive

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heres the ide cable plug

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and i tried to get a good shot of the plug on the chip board

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 07:48 PM

Those are great picture. You are right, that is a notebook hard drive. In picture #2, if you remove the two screws the IDE to mini-IDE adapter will unplug. That appears to be a standard IDE socket on the Drive.
If you want an IDE CD-RW in the machine you can simple plug the adapter that is in picture #2. The reason I am suggesting the burner go into the computer rather external, is the old drive is probably much slower (32x) verses the new drives at 52x. I would not recommend a DVD-RW because of your slower proccessor.
It's great you are tackling this project. We will get it straight.
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 12:20 PM

theres 50 pins on the back of the cd drive in pic 2.
normal ide is 40 though right?

im not wanting DVD, just cd.

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 12:42 PM

I will have to do some research, but that is a connection that carries the power too. In a normal IDE the power is sperate. I believe you will need an IDE cable that Has a 40 pin and a power plug on one end and a 50 pin on the other end.
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 03:53 PM

yea i noticed that about the power, but the hard drive uses a standard molex connector so i was going to get a new power cavble for it that has more then one and then use the extra for the new drive

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 04:08 PM

Another option is to slave the CD off the hard drive for now.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 11:27 AM

could i do that?
and still have the burner work properly?

Edited by drumnminitruckr, 24 December 2005 - 11:28 AM.





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