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#1 mike0921

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:34 PM

I have just recently become aware of the confusion surrounding DVD+RW 8X media and I can't seem to find a reliable source without paying for a subscription to somebody.... Does anybody have experience with this subject that they would share? My HP has a Lightscribe DVD+/-RW 8X drive. I have read about fading and other issues with Lightscribe, so my tendency is to wait a few years to use it for backups, pictures, and movies.

Now I am finding it difficult to purchase quality reliable 8X discs in the + format. I have always used the + format in the past and am happy with it. I read a few years ago that RW+ was more reliable over the years and aging process than RW- format.

I also read on an old post that the RW 8X discs were not back-wards compatible and had issues with other dvr players for movies and different manufacturers.

Should I stay with the 4X RW+ discs? Is Memorex still the standard it was?

Anyone?

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Mike :crazy:
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:49 PM

Something like this?

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:09 PM

Hey, thanks, but these are R not RW... and now an additional question, in the reviews of the TDK's there was a reference to "DL"... now am really realizing I know next to nothing about dvd media. It was so much simpler with CD's it seemed <_<

Where would you advise me to go for a quick Lesson on dvd media?
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:15 PM

Something like this then. DL stands for dual layer, then theres + and -. I tend to just buy whatevers cheapest, which translates into the 4x walmart cheapies for me.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:32 PM

Yes, thanks a bunch. I feel kind DUH, about the DL, {slaps forehead sighing Duuhh} I knew that....

Since you seem receptive this evening, how do you get your posts to reflect your system?
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:42 PM

there is a drop down menu top right of the screen with your name on it, click it, go to settings, profile, change signature and input your settings in the signature field

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:57 PM

I wouldn't regard RW as a dependable media for backups in any case, the proportion of unreadable discs I've experienced. Where I worked some years ago abandoned them after repeated failures, and I'm glad I have never relied on them myself for backups - last year I threw out 3 which no longer contained readable data. Fortunately there was nothing important on them.
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 09:00 PM

Ive never had either fail on me but who knows maybe its just luck of the draw.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 09:02 PM

That's possible...
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 09:27 PM

RW`s + or - are notorious for short data life expectancy. Considering they are RW they were never intended for long term storage.

All our area wal-mart carries is memorex <_< . Have had way to many problems when buying their bulk spindles with unrecognized disks on first attempt to burn.

Have found TDK CD\DVD`s to work everytime in all 8 different optical drives in 5 different machines.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 01:49 AM

In my opinion a exteranal hard drive would be the best method to backup important data on.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 10:05 AM

I was using a My Book 500 GB external hard drive for back up of pesonal data and it failed about 2 months ago or so. I am still trying to get to using some recovery software (free type) to see if I can recover it, and then use WD Lifeguard to see if it can be repaired. My initial research tells me there is a chance, as it is not making any of the typical sounds expected from a "dropped" drive, whirrings or clickings that weren't there before... so am hoping. I think I'm just trying to work up the courage to accept the consequences... or maybe just still looking for that last piece of assurance that I'm going about it with the right tools. I'm trying to avoid having to pay several hundred dollars to recover it... since, I've signed up with Carbonite and am using them until I get this all figured out.

So, from what I gather from all of your replies is that anything I want to safely keep to use +R, anything "disposable" use +RW?? Or is it a matter of economics?

Last thing to clear up for me, is my asuumption that the slower you burn it the better correct? Speed is simply for convenience? Or does it matter?

Thanks and props to all you guys for taking your time to stop here a minute and help,
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