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#1 mb9023

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:16 PM

Hey,

One of my friends asked me to build them a new desktop, making this my third custom build (I work in IT at my college, and am pretty knowledgeable), but I'd like some hardware suggestions for what he wants to use it for.
I try to do it all on Newegg for the most part if I can, so links would be awesome.

He wants to use his 32" 1080p HDTV via HDMI, for general use and maybe some casual games. (I know he doesn't own hardly any PC games...he's been playing Minecraft lately.) I don't think he'll need anything capable of running games on high settings at 1920x1200 or anything...
Also trying to keep it under $500. Personally I prefer running AMD and ATI parts. This is what I've got at the moment:

MSI 870A-G55 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard ($100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130558

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ($90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBR ($47)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case combo with the below PSU ($85)
Rosewill RV2-500 500 W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.594816


This comes out to about $370..willing to look at other options though. But I need a GFX card. Since I don't work with HD much myself, not owning an HDTV or anything, I'm not sure what he'll need to run it well. I know most decent cards have max resolutions way higher than necessary, but what would run well? At 1920x1200 or even 1360x768(720p, right?) if that might be better for his size of TV. I was looking at some Radeon 5670s with HDMI and DVI, about $90. It seems like it might even be overdoing it but I'm not sure and could use some opinions. Thanks!

Edit: Forgot to mention I'll probably be putting Win7 64bit on it.

Edited by mb9023, 24 February 2011 - 11:18 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2011 - 04:27 AM

Ill make a couple suggestions here, why not replace that MSI motherboard with a gigabyte or ASUS one like this Personally, I have far better luck with those brands. Plus, its about 5 dollars more and has a 880 chipset which is far superior to the 770 in that MSI and has support for USB 3 and SATA III (6 gb/s) Crossfire and the whole nine yards, I think you would get more for your money.

As far as video cards are concerned, if all hes wanting it for is basically watching movies in hi def, most cards, even integrated ones will handle that just fine Something like this would work on the bit of overkill side, with a 5670 thiswould be a good option and if you wanted to save some money this would still work. Now if he does some light gaming, your probably going to want to go with the 5770 I linked above.

As far as the case and PSU is concerned, the Case is fine, but the PSU is so so, it should do the job you want it to, but it only has a 72% efficiency rating and only 500 watts which isnt much room for expansion. Typically, especially if its going to be a computer thats going to be on a lot I would look for a PSU with at least a 80% efficiency rating or higher, at least.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:18 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into your suggestions and put another build together.

Suggestions from anyone else still welcome!

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 11:21 AM

Here's what I think I'm gonna go with-

Rosewill R218-P-BK-450W ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with 1x 120mm Fan, 450W Power Supply

GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

SAPPHIRE 100287VGAL Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872'>AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX445WFGMBOX

Same HDD, and same RAM. Also added a DVD drive..since I don't think I have any spares around my house. This comes out to just under $450, add in a little compensation for building it and I get his total to about $500 ;). I read a lot of reviews and looked at Tom's Hardware $500 build from December 2010 for a few suggestions. I went cheaper in the processor, gfx, and PSU/case a little to get that mobo in, I think it will be worth it for future upgrades without sacrificing very much performance at all. And I know it will do what he needs it to do. I'm not looking for a huge PSU, and they're probably one of the cheapest things to upgrade if ever needed anyway.

Edited by mb9023, 25 February 2011 - 11:22 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2011 - 01:21 PM

Should work, I think I would still be tempted to find a different PSU but overall looks like a decent build.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 01:27 PM

If any deals come up on newegg by next week when I purchase it, first thing I'll look for is a PSU. Thanks for the help.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:48 PM

Everything looks good, I do suggest going with a 1GB graphics card. If this person were to game or use any post-processing effects with output, the extra size may be beneficial. The HIS IceQ H567Q1GD Radeon HD 5670 1GB is less than $100 and would work well. If you're willing to spend a little more upfront, the HIS H575FN1GD Radeon HD 5750 1GB would be a substantial performance increase. You could also go cheaper with the motherboard and get an 870 chipset. The 880G and GX chipsets are the same as the 870's but have on-board graphics which you don't need if you are getting a dedicated card. The ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 is a decent board if you are not trying to squeeze every last FPS out of a game. As for a PSU, a bare minimum 500W unit from a good manufacturer would be sufficient. I would suggest the Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W, SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W, or OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:02 AM

I was looking at some Radeon 5670s with HDMI and DVI, about $90.
That's a decent card for what it offers. The next sensible option would probably be the HD5770, if budget permits.

The 880G and GX chipsets are the same as the 870's but have on-board graphics which you don't need if you are getting a dedicated card
I agree. If you feel the ASRock boards are pricey, check out what Gigabyte has to offer.
However, should you require on-board graphics as a standby option, do proceed with the GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3!

If you do decide to go in for the HD5770, I would strongly suggest a ~500W PSU from SeaSonic, FSP or Corsair. I wouldn't recommend opting for the Rosewill PSU that comes with case.

Good luck with the build!
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Posted 26 February 2011 - 01:06 PM

My only issue with buying a separate PSU is that it makes it way more expensive than a PSU/case combo. I'm trying to keep the build below $450 now and if I'm spending $70ish on a PSU and then on a case..it makes things a little tough.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 02:38 PM

Yes, but chances are if you go with a cheap PSU now youll be buying another one before long, and when it goes theres always the chance of it frying something else. My #1 recomendation to anyone building a computer is dont skimp on the PSU or the motherboard of your computer-you can skimp on everything else it can be easily upgraded and replaced later, but those 2 components form the backbone of your computer, you want them to be solid performers.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 04:03 PM

I try to pick combos that get good reviews for their PSU's. The previous two machines I've built were combos and they are both still running strong, mine personally for over 2 years. I did find a slightly more expensive one with a 500W though, with good reviews, so I'm gonna roll with it. Thanks for all the help though everybody.




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