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Rare Blue Screens, Related to Registry


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#1 thatdudegrim

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 02:10 AM

Edit: This is XP Home.

This machine, from time to time, hits a BSoD. This is a cheap local system just meant to get my son online. The problem is that it occasionally blue screens and it does frustrate me when it does. Tonight, after a facebook breach, I was doing a lot of thorough cleaning. I was glad to see that the scans for malwares and viruses came up clean. He tells me his password was a simple word so it might have been someone's lucky guess, it might have been brute force. It could, of course, been an undetected malware.

All that aside, every time I get a registry cleaner (CCleaner) near the registry, it Blue Screens and restarts. This is scary because it seems to me there's probably a corruption in the registry. It may go on for years and never cause any significant problem but it could start causing havoc next week for all I know.

What can I do? Is a format really my only option? It is Windows XP SP3 that I'm working with.

Edit #2: Silly omission -- I have not tried to run the registry cleaner in safe mode. I'm not sure how likely that will help to avoid a BSoD and still not sure, at that point, what to do to secure the registry.

Edited by thatdudegrim, 12 February 2011 - 02:13 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2011 - 02:25 AM

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

• Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

• Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

• Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

• Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

• The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in unpredictable results.

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

* Ed Bott's Webog: Why I don’t use registry cleaners
* Do I need a Registry Cleaner?

Please download BlueScreenView
No installation required.
Double click on BlueScreenView.exe file to run the program.
When scanning is done, go Edit>Select All.
Go File>Save Selected Items, and save the report as BSOD.txt.
Open BSOD.txt in Notepad, copy all content, and paste it into your next reply.
If there are many, please only include the more recent ones.

It would help if you were to post the make and model of this computer.

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#3 thatdudegrim

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 02:50 AM

First, sorry, it's XP Pro. I was wrong saying it was Home.

==================================================
Dump File         : Mini021211-02.dmp
Crash Time        : 2/12/2011 1:28:20 AM
Bug Check String  : KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Bug Check Code    : 0x1000008e
Parameter 1       : 0xc0000047
Parameter 2       : 0x804fcf44
Parameter 3       : 0x80550eb4
Parameter 4       : 0x00000000
Caused By Driver  : Mo3Fltr.sys
Caused By Address : Mo3Fltr.sys+1848
File Description  : 
Product Name      : 
Company           : 
File Version      : 1.0.0.0.0.0 built by: WinDDK
Processor         : 32-bit
Computer Name     : 
Full Path         : C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini021211-02.dmp
Processors Count  : 2
Major Version     : 15
Minor Version     : 2600
Dump File Size    : 90,112
==================================================

==================================================
Dump File         : Mini021211-01.dmp
Crash Time        : 2/12/2011 12:53:57 AM
Bug Check String  : KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Bug Check Code    : 0x1000008e
Parameter 1       : 0xc0000047
Parameter 2       : 0x804fcf44
Parameter 3       : 0x80550eb4
Parameter 4       : 0x00000000
Caused By Driver  : Mo3Fltr.sys
Caused By Address : Mo3Fltr.sys+1848
File Description  : 
Product Name      : 
Company           : 
File Version      : 1.0.0.0.0.0 built by: WinDDK
Processor         : 32-bit
Computer Name     : 
Full Path         : C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini021211-01.dmp
Processors Count  : 2
Major Version     : 15
Minor Version     : 2600
Dump File Size    : 90,112
==================================================

There's no make I can give you. It was assembled by a local guy. I have had Belarc Advisor on here for some time, and ran it freshly updated. The attached "blark.htm" should answer any question you've got about my hardware. I'm sorry I can't make it a simple answer.

Attached Files


Edited by thatdudegrim, 12 February 2011 - 03:13 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:23 AM

Go to the website of your mouse manufacturer and download and install the latest driver.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 01:21 PM

Downloaded and updated.

In pursuit of the driver, I actually blue screened while trying to download it, not install it. The most recent bluescreen report in BlueScreenViewer from pre-download highlights the same file as the problem. I went back to the site and got it successfully.

It'd be nice if the mouse really was the culprit.

Thank you dc3 and Allan.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 01:27 PM

Whether or not it's the mouse, it IS the mouse driver at fault.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 03:20 PM

I'm never happy about touching the registry, I've seen registries fry before but like I said, I had downloaded CCleaner.

Anyway, every time I ran analyze registry function of the program, it was hitting a BSoD, but since upgrading the mouse driver, I was able to run the Analyze function (just Analyze, just to see if it cause another BSoD, I didn't clean anything!) and I'm glad to say it comes up clean.

Also googling just that file name, "Mo3Fltr.sys" returns numerous results talking about BSoDs lol.

Thanks again, all seems to working fine.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:11 PM

Im thinking that you may have an infection.
I would download, install, update and run MalwareBytes AntiMalware.
Do the full scan. It could take some time to run so go kill some time and check on it occasionally.

Mice dont need special drivers. You plug them in and they work.

What driver did you install and what mouse do you have?
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 06:13 PM

Eyesee, I have to agree with Allan on this one. If you do the research you will find a whole page of corroborating articles. Mo3Fltr.sys mouse - Google Search


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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:57 PM

Malwarebytes was the first scan I ran, before AVG last night, before coming here. The mouse on this PC is World of Warcraft gaming mouse and while it does have an array of buttons, the extra ones are just remaps of the keyboard really.

http://steelseries.com/products/games/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-mmo-gaming-mouse

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:05 PM

A CD should have come with this mouse to provide drivers for the extra features, did you install these drivers?

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 11:50 PM

Having just finished reading several articles on this mouse , all comments seem to be similar -
"A great concept mouse" , but many report failures not unlike this - Can you unstall it and just add a fairly standard mouse + drivers and you may solve the BSODs -
There was / is a fault in the product that ranges from XP to Win7 computers and has not yet been repaired -
The drivers on the install CD, and from the site have not yet fixed many problems -
It seems hard to think that your mouse is the basis for most of these problems , but it is -
:idea: Uninstall / Replace and install with another $10 mouse (for now) and most problems should be OK for now -:)




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