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#1 evilnalmut

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 11:46 PM

Good evening bleeping computer goers. I am wondering if any of you would have some advice for someone in my situation. My primary computer is a hand-me-down from a friend and recently it has come down with a virus. For the most part I believe it is treatable, but in the event that I am unable to kill the beast I am willing to wipe the hard drive and start fresh, and if that is the case I may be looking to upgrade my system, or simply get a new one. I am currently running Windows XP with an Intel Desktop board D945GNT, Pentium 4 3.8GHz, 2GB RAM, NVIDIA GEFORCE 9600 GT with a 200GB hard drive. We primarily use our computer for internet browsing, and some gaming.

I am thinking about upgrading to windows 7 and possibly getting a new video card and a new monitor. With my current setup is this something you think I should upgrade? Or should I abandon this system and just get a new system?

If i were to buy a new computer my purchase template would look like this:

My budget for the new computer is: $500 - $1000

What are the primary uses for this computer (IE: mail, web browsing, programming, games, etc)? Will mostly be used to browse the internet, use Microsoft office for work, and sometimes games

What software do you intend on using on the computer? Microsoft Office, and other misc programs

Do you play games? If so, what type of games? RTS - Starcraft 2, FPS - Battlefield Bad Company 2, Simulation - Sims 3

Do you tend to have a lot of programs running at the same time, or do you close every program when you are done using it? I usually have several firefox browsers running with Pandora Radio, email, facebook and other programs open all at the same time.

Do you store a lot of pictures or music on the computer? Lots of pictures and some music.


Please let me know if you have any advice on this subject. Thank you.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 12:31 AM

You might as well get new computer and it's cheaper to build one. If you prefer to buy a pre-made one like this or you build yourself.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 12:52 PM

Upgrading the video card won't be much an upgrade that aging cpu will just bottleneck it if you decide to upgrade I think I would go the cpu route. Maybe cpu motherboard and memory specially if your going windows 7

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:53 PM

Thanks for the input. I appreciate the link killer. I am wondering how much I could save if I built my own. I see on some other peoples posts here that you could save up to $500 on a high end system. How challenging do you think a complete build is? I have changed out sound and video cards in the past, as well as memory and CD Drives. I am a little leery about how hard setting up the operating system could be from Bios. But, as you all have said there are plenty of resources on you-tube and in these forums to get the job done.

Now, if I were to build a comp from the ground up would you recommend keeping any of the components I currently have? Patriot, you mentioned that I should consider upgrading the motherboard and memory. What would you recommend?

Also, do you think Newegg has better deals, or Frys? I only ask because there is one nearby.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:58 PM

You could also post help on building a computer if your stuck. You can keep your hard drive, graphics card and DVD burner. NewEgg is cheaper and has far more range then Frys.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:16 AM

Actually, installing the OS is often the easy part-insert the CD, and follow the on screen directions, in most cases that is the easiest part. As far as the hardware, as long as your careful is not to hard either-the components only plug in one way, you just have to make sure theyre all compatible with each other, have proper cooling, and keep the static electricity at bay.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:12 PM

I think i would enjoy building my own computer, but my wife doesn't seem too confident in my ability. Killer I like the specs on the link you sent me, however this model is out of stock and it looks like it won't be restocked. Is there another system you would recommend? Perhaps near the middle of my budget?

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:51 PM

I just had a look, unfortunately most of the good models are out of stock.It looks like building it is the best way to go with the help of Bleeping Computer!

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:19 AM

ok here is a pc that can do all that u need:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&cm_re=gigabyte_motherboard-_-13-128-443-_-Product 104.99 motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=amd_965-_-19-103-727-_-Product 159.99 quad core 965 black ed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211364&cm_re=4gb_ddr3_1333-_-20-211-364-_-Product 41.99 4gb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041&Tpk=hp%201270i 22.99 dvd/cd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&cm_re=650w_psu-_-17-139-005-_-Product 89.99 650w psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433&cm_re=1tb_hdd-_-22-148-433-_-Product 64.99 1tb hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144&Tpk=rosewill%20destroyer mid-tower case 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125348&cm_re=6850-_-14-125-348-_-Product 179.99 graphics card 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=window_7_64_bit-_-32-116-754-_-Product windows7hp 99.99

total with shipping: $831.42 $814.91 without

hope this helps!...price leaves room for good monitor

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 09:09 PM

I am wondering if this topic should be moved to the System Building and Upgrading forum, because I think building a computer from the ground up is what I want to do.

Blaze I like that build. Are all these components you picked out compatible with each other?

I would probably need a wireless card as well. Do you'll suggest an on board model such as this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124342?

How future proof do you think this build would be?

Thanks for your help.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 11:16 PM

it is a very future proof system...the mobo already had usb 3.0 and other features and a quad core should last a long time...but if u wish to make it even more future proof u could go with a 750w psu in case u ever plan to crossfire vid cards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=750w_psu-_-17-139-006-_-Product

and yes they r all compatible...the only upgrades ull need down the road is possibly more ram but thats an easy thing to get so its not big deal
and if ure willing to spend it, that is a great wireless card...just get the drivers off their web site and ull be set

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 11:54 PM

Alright, I went out on a limb and made the purchase. Hopefully the build is a breeze. I will probably be back here looking for advice :wink:

I ended up getting the 750w psu in hopes of a future upgrade.

They were out of the graphics card you suggested, so I went with a similar one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $190

Then I had to get a new monitor so I went with the: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116442 $170

All in all I think it is a good haul. Can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks for the suggestion.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 03:32 AM

That Gigabyte graphics card you have choose is a very good at cooling even when it is overlocked! :thumbsup:

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 03:50 AM

I tend to trust anything gigabyte (well almost anything, rather disappointed in their computer cases) But Ive liked everything else of theirs.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 05:52 AM

Plus Gigabyte also makes keyboards and mouse.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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