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#1 Barrock

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 05:30 PM

So I'm building my new rig with the following specs:

Antec 1200 Case
i5 2500k
Asus P8P67 Pro
8 GB G.Skill RAM
GTX 570

I'm taking my hard drive and power supply from my old system and putting it into my new system. I finished up last night, and was getting a green light on the motherboard but the On button did nothing. So I took a look at the manual again and decided my Power Switch plug was in wrong. I rotated and that did the trick. It would do a double boot, but everything turned. However, I had no visuals. It was late so I had to go to bed and slept on it. I decided my problem was I only had one power supply cable plugged into the motherboard, the 24 pin. So when I got home today I plugged in the four pin on the opposite side, which I believe powers the CPU. Now my problem is the motherboard light is glowing green, but the power button does nothing. Any ideas?

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:40 PM

Did you plug in the 4 pin or the 8 pin for the CPU power? if my memory serves me right, the intel i5 needs the 8 pin ( I could be mistaken on this)

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:43 PM

After posting this I went and took a look at it. There are 2 4 pins that slide together to form an 8 pin. I plugged that in and it's still not powering up. Little green light on the motherboard is glowing, but pressing the power button doesn't do anything, unlike last night.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:28 PM

what kind of power supply are you using?

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:29 PM

It's a Coolmax 650 watt PSU.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:34 PM

have you checked that all the memory modules and video card are fully seated?

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:42 PM

Yes, I've unseated and reseated them. The strange thing is last night the video card fan was spinning, the case fans were going, I could hear the hard drive and everything. My problem last night was the 8 pin CPU cable wasn't plugged in so I got no video. I realized that and when I went to correct it today, now it suddenly won't power up like it did last night. No one touched the machine in the hours between attempts. Very random.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 09:03 PM

When a computer begins the boot process the motherboard initiates the start up of the PSU. Because of this it is difficult to determine whether the problem is with the motherboard or the PSU when a computer shows no signs of starting up. The purpose of the procedure is to determine if the problem is with the motherboard or the PSU. For safety purposes please follow the instructions step by step.

This test is for ATX PSUs. Some manufacturers use non-ATX PSUs with 20/24 pin connectors that do not have the same pinout as a ATX PSU.

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This procedure will involve working with live 12VDC electrical potentials which if handled improperly may lead to electrical shock. Proper precautions should also be taken to prevent electrostatic discharges (ESDs) within the case of the computer. For safety purposes please follow the instructions step by step.

First, shutdown your computer. Then unplug the power cable going into your computer.

Once you have opened the case, touch the metal of the case to discharge any static electricity.

The connector of the PSU which connects to the motherboard is readily recognizable by the number of wires in the bundle. To disconnect it you will need to press on the plastic clip to disengage it and then pull the connector up and away from the motherboard. Please take notice of the location of the locking tab and the notch on the socket of the motherboard, this will only connect one way as it is keyed. This wire bundle will have a memory of the way it has been installed and will want to bend back that direction, you may have to play around with it to find a position that the connector will stay in the same position while you run the test.

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From the top left to right the pins are 13-24, the bottom from left to right are 1-12.


Please notice that there are PSUs with 24 pin and 20 pin connectors, the location of the green wire in the 24 pin connector is #16, and the green wire in the 20 pin connector is #14. If you look at the connector with socket side facing you and the clip on the top the number one pin will be on the bottom left corner. This makes the pin out for the 24 pin connector from left to right 13-24 on top, and 1-12 on the bottom. The pin out for the 20 pin connector from left to right is 11-20 on top , and 1-10 on the bottom. If you look at the connectors you notice that these are sockets that fit over the pins on the motherboard where the PSU cable attaches, this is where you will place the jumper. For a jumper you will need a piece of solid wire about the size of a paper clip (20-22 awg), preferably a wire with insulation. It will need to be large enough to fit firmly into the socket so that it will not need to be held in place while testing. You are at risk of electrical shock if you are holding the jumper when you power up the PSU. Insert one end of the jumper into the socket of the Green wire, and insert the other end into the socket of any Black wire.

Once the jumper is in place plug the cord back in. If the PSU is working properly the case fans, optical drives, hdds, and LEDs should power up and remain on. I would suggest that you not leave this connected any longer than is necessary for safety purposes.

To reconnect the 20/4 pin connector unplug the power cord, remove the jumper, and reconnect the connector. Take a moment at this time to make sure that nothing has been dislodged inside the case.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:37 PM

Hmmm... what should I use for a jumper? I'm scared of ruining my motherboard by using something that will mess it up. It seems like the motherboard is the only thing getting power, unfortunately. Green light when I hit the switch on the PSU.


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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:46 PM

22 gauge wire works decently well, you can get it from most auto shop stores, you can also cut a strip from a older PSU your not using anymore. You can also try hooking the PSU up in another computer with a known working motherboard if you have one available for a safer way of doing it.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:43 PM

You may have plugged something in inncorrectly; my computer wouldn't boot when I had my USB connector plugged in wrong. It could also be that the power connection is not in its socket.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:52 PM

Okay, so I installed the power supply back into the old case. I didn't install everything like the video card and the hard drive. However, I ran the power to the CPU and the motherboard. Hitting the on buton seems to do nothing on the old computer anymore, and I don't see any lights. Bad PSU?

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:57 PM

quite possibly, if your using a different, known working system, and the PSU wont boot up, then chances are the PSU is bad. Coolmax is not a high grade PSU maker in my experience, I would never use or recomend one for that reason, and with my experience with them coupled with the fact it wont boot a second system tells me that it is indeed bad.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:02 PM

All I would need to have plugged in for the old one to boot is the two plugs to the motherboard, correct? For it to at least POST?

On the old computer, sometimes I'd be viewing the internet, the sound would stutter for a second, and it would give a blue screen for about a second, and then reboot. Said some sort of hardware problem in event viewer. Sign it was going bad?


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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:13 PM

possibly

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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