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Installed Sound Card, Now Won't Boot


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#1 mama4cats

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 03:31 AM

After I put in the card and hit the power, the correct sound sequence started, then my surge protector tripped.

Well, now the fan runs, and that's all.

So do I call 9-1-1, (in this case, bleeping computer) or the undertaker?

Any assistance and/or condolences would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 07:13 AM

Surge protector where? On the mains power board? Doesn't sound good. :thumbsup:

First step - take out the sound card. Does it make any difference? If not I think your power supply has gone. You will need to get a new one and replace it. If you need to do this make sure it suits your model of E-machine (some computers use proprietary power supplies).

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 03:54 PM

Thank you for replying.

The surge protector was between my computer and the wall outlet.

As you suggested, I took the board out and put things back as they were. Still nothing happens except the fan comes on, none of the usual booting noises. The monitor displays "no signal" on the screen and no lights on the keyboard.

You asked if the surge protector was on the main board, I was unaware one might be located there. I reviewed the board's manual and schematics looking for that or a fuse reset and did not see one or did not recognize it if it is there.

Do you have any other suggestions?

Thank you for your help and guidance.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 07:23 PM

mains power board = what we call the thingy which tuns your wall outlet into 4 (or more) outlets.
I don't believe you will find any kind of surge protection or fuse on your mainboard (motherboard).

To pop the surge protector indicates a serious problem with your PC (unless you were running other power hungry electrical devices from the same "board"?) AS I said before I think your computer power supply (PSU) has blown.
(DO NOT ATTEMPT TO OPEN THE COMPUTER POWER SUPPLY - THERE ARE DANGEROUS VOLTAGES PRESENT!)
Computer power supplies are supposed to be able to cope with temporary shorts on the motherboard without damaging anything - you could try this:
  • Remove all the plug-in cards except the video card.
  • Unplug all the drive cables including the power to the hard drive the floppy drive and the CD/DVD drives.
  • Remove any additional sticks of memory (leave one plugged in).
  • Power up.
Does anything appear on the screen? Are there any beeps? If you do get something appearing on the screen then there may be a short in one of the components you removed/unplugged. Connect them one at a time until you find the one which prevents the computer from powering up. Then look to replace that device.

Is there another PC available you could borrow some bits from? If possible swap out the video card after you have removed the items from the list above. With your PC in its minimalised state swap the power supply from the other PC.

You could also remove your PSU and take it in to a computer shop and ask them to test it. They should be able to give you an answer almost immediately for little cost.

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:19 PM

Thanks again for the directions and advice.

I will try your suggestions, and if that doesn't work I will take it in to see if it needs to be replaced.

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:52 PM

According to the shop, the PSU is OK. They said the motherboard could be fried.

In your opinion, is this the most likely problem?

If so, does it make sense to replace the motherboard on a computer such as this?

If not, can I salvage some of the items in this computer for use on another or are they only compatible with this brand?

Thanks for any and all advice as I am a "sub-novice" when it comes to hardware.

Ugh!

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 04:57 PM

Give use the specs onyour current computer.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 06:16 PM

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 07:07 PM

You can use the RAM, Hard drive, proccessor, and the video card if the video is not built in. The replacement board is only available thru Emachine and is cost prohibitive. You will need a new power supply. Emachine uses a special PS and is not compatible with other motherboards.
The good news is you have a good start on a very good inexpensive computer.
All you need right now is a motherboard and case w/PS. A motherboard w/onboard video if the card in your current machine is onbord.
I guess less than $100.
Of course an OS. I would go with W2k, but that is just me. If you go with XP go with XP Pro.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 10:24 PM

Thanks so much, acklan. I appreciate all of the advice.

I figured that would be my option at this point, so I will head in that direction. Thanks again, and I'm sure that will only increase my amount of questions on the board, but I really think I may actually learn something?

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 11:56 PM

We all live to learn. If you have question you will be pleasently suprized at the amount of advice you will receive.
Remember you can do this. It's not hard and it's fun.


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