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"No Signal" message to display monitor, new blank HD


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#1 stilllearning6

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:04 PM

Gateway Performance 450 came with Win98 on a 12 giga HD .
Have replaced HD with Western Digital P-ATA 320 giga .
Have all install discs for Win 98 / original software Restoration CD .

Following web instructions to turn on PC , then get into BIOS and tell PC to boot via CD-ROM install disc .
Can not do the above because I can not see display monitor , only dark blank screen.
Red continuous dot tells me power on at display. I can cycle through ON/Off of monitor and it briefly displays message ; " No signal ".

Also have a floppy : " UNIVERSAL BOOT DISC " WINNT 4.0 and 95 and 98 .

How to proceed ? .

This mid-tower PC did have a different LCD monitor showing correctly 3 weeks ago .
All (printer, monitor , keyboard, mouse) was disconnected and just the mid-tower was transported for replacement of the old HD.
The system had been running WinXP through an upgrade WinXP disc fromWin 98--> WinXP.
I have been on tech phone lines and one guy said suspect Video Card . Yet , all was fine 3 weeks ago.

Goal was to replace HD and then reinstall Win 98 , then Win XP upgrade .
Can not accomplish w/o access to visible monitor display to get into BIOS , boot from CD-ROM , instruct install , etc.

Edited by stilllearning6, 17 January 2011 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:27 AM

Try a different video card or cable if you have spares laying around.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 12:39 PM

Following web instructions, I merely removed video card and then replaced it .
Upon reboot , LCD screen worked .

Thank you for input .

I can see phrase : " Operating System not found " . That is good.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 12:55 PM

You posted at the same time as me

Im thinking that the BIOS doesnt support a hard drive of that size.
Thats a BIG jump from a 12 gig to a 320!!
Does the BIOS see the drive at full capacity?

Can you please confirm the model #. I am not finding anything on the Gateway site about it.

Another issue that you will run into is the partition size limit in Windows 98. I believe it was a max of 120 gig.
You will need the updated FDISK to partition a hard drive to that size.
Fdisk Does Not Recognize Full Size of Hard Disks Larger than 64 GB. Fdisk will partition the drive to that size but when you format the drive format will misreport the size. It will also take considerable time to format a drive to that size. Maybe well over an hour.

But I think that your initial issue is a BIOS limitation

Edited by Eyesee, 18 January 2011 - 12:56 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 01:40 PM

How can the Windows XP Upgrade be clean-installed? That is, clean- installed on a hard disk on which an older version of Windows is installed, on a new hard disk drive, or one that has been formatted or taken down to "bare metal?

Give that a whirl and see if it works.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:04 PM

Thank you all for guidance as I am newbie .

Currently , doing a WINXP upgrade from Win98 .

An issue I encountered was : no internet .
Could not get driver from Motorola/ Gateway / local cable company .
Hope that WinXP will have it .

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:42 PM

Sounds like you are on the right track.
Make sure you check device manager to ensure that you have all the correct drivers installed before you install any additional software.
Good job!
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 08:16 PM

If you are using the USB Function on your Cable Modem, then I recommend using the Ethernet connection. It will be much more stable and reliable not to mention faster.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:16 PM

The process of install new HD ( from 12g to 320 g ) was completed with a great many side tracks.

As you folks suspected , only 127 giga of the 320 giga was recognized .
Paid $50 for HD Western Digital , P-ATA.

After re-seating the VGA card , display appeared ( whew! ) and allowed me to enter BIOS , re-boot from CD-ROM ,
then do install Win98. But...
no internet access .
OEM was year 1999 , days of 56K dial phone modem.
Today , I use broadband direct ethernet cable , and no dial-up number to call out to internet.

I proceeded with upgrade to WinXP SP-2 .
Next, added an old phone line plug-in (very lucky to have one ).
Miraculously , got 56k internet access.

Did 72 Windows updates .
Then , update for IE 8 appeared to replace IE6. AOK.
Then , SP-3 appeared . Huge file !!! My old 12 giga could not have handled that size software.

Created a bunch of RESTORE POINTS along the way to adding more software.

Took me 10 hours one day , 5 hours next day.
Slow download speed @ 56k and ancient software requiring massive updates were time consuming.

Currently looking to swap out OEM noisy DVD- ROM Toshiba SD-M1202, 4X/32x , IDE .
This was original equipment and I am concerned that if I deviate too much , then any
future installs of OS from a CD-ROM drive may not be supported in BIOS . I just do not know enough .

Perhaps any CD-ROM would work , just do not know.

Thank you all.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

Now that you have XP SP2, I would recommend getting SP3 and staying current with all and any updates, but stay away from Driver Updates offered via MS.




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