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#1 monkeydog

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 11:07 PM

Hello all, I'm fixing to build a new computer and would love some input from y'all. I'm considering this combo deal from New Egg. I like the phenom II x4 965 Black Edition and am wanting to build around it.

I would like a setup that will do good with current games like Call of Duty, But I also want to have an all around good, fast computer for web browsing, making cd's etc. Basically, I want the fastest setup that I can get for under a thousand dollars including shipping and a copy of windows 7 64 bit.

The combo that I linked above looks good to me, but am wondering if y'all have any opinions on it as far as parts that may be better than the ones listed, or as good but cheaper. I really appreciate any thoughts!

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 11:27 PM

This one is the right for the tasks you mentioned!

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 11:29 PM

link cannot be found? I dont know about the combo, but I have put the 965 in a friends gaming rig paired with a gigabyte crossfire enabled motherboard, 4 gigs of patriot DDR3, and a Saphire 4890, and he positively loves it-its screams.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 12:08 AM

link cannot be found? I dont know about the combo, but I have put the 965 in a friends gaming rig paired with a gigabyte crossfire enabled motherboard, 4 gigs of patriot DDR3, and a Saphire 4890, and he positively loves it-its screams.

Look at the link and remove "http://www.http.com//" to view the combo deal.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 08:57 AM

Thanks for your replies, Patriot09, I fixed the link so it should show up now if you want to take another look.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:36 PM

Looks like a decent build, all high quality components, with room for future upgrades.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:12 AM

Any thoughts on the video card? The one in this combo is the Gigabyte GV N460oc. I was reading reviews and there seem to be a lot of bad reviews on this card about it not working after a few months. They seem to be directed at the Gigabyte brand.

I looked at the PNY GeForce GTS 450 and the EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE. Any thoughts on these two cards or perhaps a recomendation on another card in the same class and price range?

Thanks!

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:34 AM

That's a killer combo. I'd go for it. The price is definitely good as well as the parts. You won't be disappointed I'm sure of that.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 12:19 PM

Ive never had anything go wrong with gigabyte, theyre my number one brand for motherboards and third choice for video cards-have a Gigabyte 4550 in my current system, and it works great.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:41 PM

It's a good combo, though there are better graphics cards for around the same price. You will not be able to use SLI on that system, but that shouldn't be a major issue unless you are a hardcore gamer. For around the same price as the GTX 460, the HIS H685F1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB will perform a little faster. If you are willing to go a bit above that price, the HIS H687F1G2M Radeon HD 6870 1GB performs even better. Remember, you also need the operating system.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:58 PM

The current graphics card should work fine with the latest COD which i play using a Asus EAH5670 1GB OCed.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 05:09 AM

Thanks everyone for the input, I have one more question, just to make sure I'm on the right track here. If I purchase this combo along with a copy of windows 7, I'll be sitting right at $900 and be assembling it myself. I want to make sure that I'll be doing better than what I can get allready put together.

If I compare my build to this, I assume that mine will be faster as this is just a 3.0 processor and mine will be a 3.4.

I also looked at this one. It is a 6 core, but is only a 2.7. So...

When comparing my build vs these other two pre made units, considering all the components from cpu to power supply, case, etc. which one will be the better machine for the money spent. Based upon speed, performance, quality of parts, and ease of upgrading in future? I appreciate everyones thoughts, I just want to make sure that after I take the time to order and put together this rig, that I'll have a better machine than a premade one for about the same money. Thanks again everyone!

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 12:38 PM

Graphics wise, your system will beat both out no issue-CPU wise, your CPU that you wanted will outperform the first option you linked, while the second combo, the hexacore, will outperform the CPU you chose, mainly because it has 2 more cores. They both have more ram then your combo, but thats not a huge deal, you still dont need more then 4 gigs anyway and you can add that later if you decide you need it. I would go ahead and build, but thats just my opinion. Oh, and make sure you through some thermal paste in it like Arctic silver 5, the paste that comes with the CPU heatsink always sucks.

Edited by the_patriot09, 18 January 2011 - 12:39 PM.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 05:11 AM

Thanks, patriot09. I believe I'm going to go ahead and build. I thought about that 6 core from Best Buy, but it just has a 300 watt power supply so If I upped the graphics I'm thinking I would also need to up the power supply. I don't know for sure, but I'd say the case I'm going to get has more cooling fans(3). Also the processor from Best Buy is listed as 2.7GHz. If I was going for the 6 core I guess I would want to go all the way and get the X6 1100T at 3.3-3.7.

So it looks like the original build for me. Am I correct in assuming that if I want to upgrade to the phenomII X6 1100T in a year or two I could do that and retain my same motherboard and hard drive?

Also, looking at operating system- A bit confusing, If I get the oem version of windows7 I can use the same disc to reinstall/reformat anytime I want, correct? Does it just not have the fancy packaging as the consumer edition?

Thanks agin, you all have been a big help!

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 09:15 AM

Possibly. Chances are AMD will release a couple more CPUs for this socket before upgrading to the next. The good news is, the new socket coming out AM3+ is supposed to have limited compatibility, (rumored to anyway) so it will probably be like going from AM3 to AM2. What I mean is, some AM3 CPUs (not all) will work in AM2 motherboards with a bottlenecked FSB, but AM2 CPUs will not work in a AM3 board, the new one will likely be the same way-certain AM3+ CPUs will likely work in a AM3 board with some bottlenecks, but AM3 CPUs will not likely work in AM3+. Its hard to say for certain though until AMD releases the socket information.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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