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#1 Dta116

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 02:54 PM

It seems this problem I have has driven me to the brink of asking for help....I hate that, but do appreciate the wisdom of this site and I trust the moderators.

When the computer is first booted, all is well as long as I continue to work with it. If the computer is left for any length of time I will slow down exponentially to the point of a crawl. I seems it has locked up but if the command if left to finish, it will eventually complete, (albeit many minutes later). I seems to aggravate the issue the longer the computer is left alone. I first thought I had been hijacked, but no network activity seems to be going on. My final thought is that the SSD drive is defective.

I hope to get a little help from here. I'm sure there is software I can run to tell you all you need to know about the issue. So without further adeau, Happy helping, (and a Happy New Year).

Woops! I am running Windows 7 pro and I only do updates periodically because of the incessant rebooting. PC Tools Antivirus and System Mechanic 10, All up to date.

I have gone over the Virus checking with a moderator in the Malware Forums and all is well.

I just check the issue this morning and the Problem still exists. This problem will also manifest itself if I leave the Win 7 login page open for an extended period of time...

I'm thinking It could be my 256gig SSD drive "C". I really have no experience with SSD drives, so I do not know what a malfunction would look like.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks again.

Dave

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 04:04 PM

<<...System Mechanic>>

I just cannot imagine feeling the need to install this program...on Windows 7. My first guess would be that it contributes to whatever problems you have experineced.

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:
  • Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

    The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.
  • Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.
  • Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.
  • Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.
  • The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.
I would remove System Mechanic from the system...run chkdsk /r...run the sfc /scannow command or do a repair install...and then see how the system functions.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 08:18 PM

I will do as you ask, although the problem existed prior to installing System Mechanic. I use System mechanic for other tasks, I don't use it to clean the registry.

I need a way to repair Windows. I have an HP laptop that came with a loaded OS, Win7 Pro. The only way I can see to repair windows, is to wipe the hard drive. Man...I don't want to do that....

I hope there is another way.

Thank you for your support.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 09:02 PM

If you have an HP laptop...it would appear to me that the only way that you can attempt to repair a problem that is not fully documented...is to attempt a repair install of Windows.

There are some problems that a repair effort will not overcome...it's just a base effort some of us when there are no specific pointers to identify what might be the problem.

HP is responsible for providing you with repair options and install options for the systems they manufacture...I suggest that you visit the support page at thee HP site for your system...and see what alternatives might be available.

Other alternatives which you might employ...will have to come from Win 7 users here who are more familiar than I with Win 7. I haven't run into anything yet that would prompt me to research repair efforts...and I backup and have valid MS Win 7 DVDs which I can use to wipe the system and clean install, if I should see fit.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 09:10 PM

I didn't look at your topic in the Malware Forums, but could you give us more info on your computer?
Make, Model, self built,(OEM or?) version of Windows7, upgrade from which OS, clean install, new pc, or what?
List your specs ... Please.
The more information you can give, the better we can try to trouble shoot the problem. :wink:

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 10:08 PM

This was purchased about a year ago with a loaded OS Win7n Pro.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DAVEHPLAPTOP
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model HP Pavilion dv8 Notebook PC
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel® Core™ i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz, 1600 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard F.25, 5/31/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name DaveHPLaptop\Dave
Time Zone Central Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 5.86 GB
Total Virtual Memory 16.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 13.8 GB
Page File Space 7.99 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


My next question is , are there gurus' on the forums that can tell me what kind of specific behavior to expect from the SSD drive.

I was thinking about installing a dual boot to Linux to test if the problem follows the OS or the problem goes away....

Thanks, Dave

Edited by Dta116, 30 December 2010 - 10:11 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2011 - 12:04 PM

Set Nero to manual in "Services" and uncheck it from startup using msconfig. Reboot and see if that helps a bit.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:09 PM

I'm not sure I understand "Set Nero to manual in "Services" and uncheck it from startup using msconfig"

What dies this have to do with anything?

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:38 PM

Nero is one of those programs that run their own indexing process, bogging down your computer.

Type services.msc in the start search box, then click on the icon. Scroll down to Nero, right click, choose properties, then in the dropdown box, set it to manual startup. Also, click 'stop' the program.

Next, type msconfig in the run box, click ok. Click the startup tab and uncheck Nero. Reboot/restart your computer.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 07:44 PM

Jacee, Are you confusing me with someone else? I have no Nero on my computer. It is not in startup nor in services. If it was, I got rid of it long ago.

Thanks again.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 12:13 PM

Post #5 http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic369321.html/page__p__2069121__fromsearch__1#entry2069121

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