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#1 Ubiq

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 05:47 PM

My school suggests an Intel Core2 Duo as the minimum to be considered for a processor. What is the AMD equivalent of that?
Why are AMDs cheaper, are they not as good?

I have been reading lots of user ratings and reviews for the laptops I'm interested in. I keep reading that the Intel Core i3 is too slow and their video stutters or whatever, but then I might read elsewhere that there is little difference between i3 and i5. So which is it?
I don't understand why Toshiba, Sony and Lenovo would offer all these different AMD chips and Intel i3 and lower if they are not all good.

I would just go with the cheapest AMD chip if I thought it would be for some of the esoteric word processing and publishing programs I will need to use. I remember similar programs at the school labs being really sluggish. I am really confused.

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 07:24 PM

It all depends on personal preference. I am a Die hard AMD fan, and have AMD in nearly every computer I own, happy with all of them. A laptop with a good phenom II quad will perform fine. The i3, is a good dual core CPU, but its also Intels budget i3, if you expect a budget CPU to perform like a top of the line CPU, then your going to be severely dissapointed, to be happy you need to purchase a CPU that was designed to do what you want to do and get one that will perform like you want. If you want a performance CPU, then you won't be happy if you purchase the lowest end intel OR AMD CPU. So what are you going to school for, and how much power do you need?

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 09:57 PM

International Studies with minors in Hindi-Urdu and horticulture.
I speak Tibetan also and need to be able to work in that language with programs like this and large dictionaries in both languages.

Is that a complicated program? I don't even know! I need to take some computer classes-lol!
So I don't know how much power I need. But apart from MS Office I think the above example is a fair representation of what I will be asked to use.

After I spend a semester in India I'll have a better idea but that's at least a year away and I need a laptop now. This laptop will be what I use in India if that makes any difference.

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 10:42 PM

Well, for that program it requires anything faster then a 500 mhz (will even run on a slower machine just not as well) which is like pentium III on up. . .not a lot of processing power needed there. Microsoft words getting a bit power hungry these days, but nothing a low end AMD chip or an i3 couldnt handle. My advice is to find a laptop with either a good Athlon II or a phenom II x3 or x4, it should be probably 3 times as much power as you need, so it will keep you going for awhile, and like you stated AMD is far cheaper which means you get more for you buck. If you go intel, I would advise the i5-it is a better chip then the i3 so it may help future proof you.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 10:53 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834214023
see what ya think, nice amd toshiba laptop
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 02:11 PM

If I was in the market for a new laptop, Id buy it.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 02:40 PM

Thank you for the advice. Now, it's between the one Lt Dan found and this Toshiba Portege with an i5 processor.
I think I'm going to buy from Newegg.com and buy extra warranty from Toshiba.
Hmmm, the Satellite would be more comfortable to use and cheaper and the Portege more comfortable to carry.

Decisions, decisions...

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:19 PM

If it were me, I would go with the AMD build it has a ATI 4250 video card, while the i5 one only has a intel video chip, which in my experience, they tend to perform rather lousily, Just my two cents though.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 05:06 PM

I think you are right about that Intel chip. Everyone who has one mentions it. I wonder why they did that?

Is it possible to change video chips?

Edited by Ubiq, 29 December 2010 - 05:08 PM.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 06:58 PM

not in a laptop-not typically, on some of the very high end ones maybe, but that is not one of those, you would have to choose a model that does not have the intel video card to start.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:55 PM

I recon the intel video card will be fine for school programs.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:41 PM

Update:
I just ordered this Toshiba Portege r705 p41 with i5 processor from newegg.com.
They had a 14" Sony Vaio ea series with an AMD processor, but I didn't get paid before they sold out. So I took your advice and skipped the Portege with the i3 processor. It's only a few dollars more really. I hope I made the right choice. :unsure:
Next year, I'm going to buy a bigger screen laptop with AMD for home use and comfortable typing etc. I can't believe the price difference. I'm definitely curious about how they perform.
I guess now I need to add all my computer's specs to the bottom of my posts.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 09:50 AM

Update:
I just ordered this Toshiba Portege r705 p41 with i5 processor from newegg.com.
They had a 14" Sony Vaio ea series with an AMD processor, but I didn't get paid before they sold out. So I took your advice and skipped the Portege with the i3 processor. It's only a few dollars more really. I hope I made the right choice. :unsure:
Next year, I'm going to buy a bigger screen laptop with AMD for home use and comfortable typing etc. I can't believe the price difference. I'm definitely curious about how they perform.
I guess now I need to add all my computer's specs to the bottom of my posts.

Good buy, i like the Portege range they have a elegant design.

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