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#1 shyjan

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 02:52 PM

I have a HP from a friend.
The Hard drive is 80 gigs.
The c drive is partitioned 14 gigs and is almost full.
I have the d drive which is 60 gigs and I have moved the files to it to save space. 4 gigs
It has started to shut down for no reason.
I loaded Hard drive health on it.
It is 37 % healthy. I cant find any documentation on it but that sounds bad.
I did a surface scan and it found 3 bad sectors.

I took the hard drive out and brought it home.
I loaded partition magic on it thinking I could copy the c drive to a larger partition and boot from there...
Is this possible to do?
or should I try to clone it to a new hard drive?

Any suggestions?

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 05:48 PM

should I try to clone it to a new hard drive?

This would be your best option by far. Then you could test the old HDD, to see whether it may continue to be used or simply scrapped. When a HDD starts getting bad sectors, it often means that it is on a down-hill slide, and should be replaced ASAP. Any effort to recover from the bad sectors is usually only a temporary fix, until a replacement can be obtained and installed.

"I loaded partition magic on it thinking I could copy the c drive to a larger partition and boot from there...
Is this possible to do?"

I don't know whether this would be possible, and if it was possible, whether it would work. It would be risky at best, and if you were to attempt it, I would advise that you first cloned it to another HDD as a backup in the event of things going pear-shaped.


Edit: I neglected to mention chkdsk (Error Checking)
Run Error Checking on both drives (C and D)


Try this ...
Use the Windows Error checking utility (Check Disk), with the options to scan the disk surface for errors, and attempt recovery of data and repair the disk.
  • Open "My Computer"
  • Right-click on the drive that you wish to check > Properties > Tools > and in the "Error checking" section, click on "Check now".
  • Place a tick in both boxes > Start.
  • If the disk you have chosen is the system disk:
    • A message will notify you that a restart is necessary: Click OK, and close all windows.
    • Re-start the computer. The disk will be checked when the system boots.
      This test will take some time to run and at times may appear stalled but just let it run.
    • When the disk check is complete, the system will re-start automatically and load Windows.
  • If any errors were found, it may be prudent to repeat Check Disk.
Note: The above is NOT without a certain amount of risk, such that if you have important data that you do not wish to risk, you should clone the HDD to another, before attempting to use Error Checking as instructed above.

Edited by AustrAlien, 29 November 2010 - 06:06 PM.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 07:06 PM

Thanks I will try your suggestions

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

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OK: Let us know how things are going, or if you have any problems.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 12:20 PM

I did chkdsk still will not boot

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:44 PM

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You said "I took the hard drive out and brought it home."
and "I did chkdsk still will not boot"
Please clarify the situation: Do you have just the HDD, or do you have the computer and its HDD? When you attempted to boot with the hard drive, it was in the computer in which it was originally installed .... correct?

You have said "It has started to shut down for no reason."
and "... still will not boot"
I am confused here: Does the computer start and run at all? What exactly happens, and what do you see on the screen, when you attempt to start the system normally? Does the system start in Safe Mode, and if not, what happens?

Do you have another computer to which you can connect the problematic hard drive as a secondary or slave hard drive?

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 11:42 AM

yes I took the HD out and brought it home. I put it in as a slave drive and did a check disk on it.
It is a used computer and had the c drive as only 14 gigs on an 80 gig hard drive.
Now it did boot up before I removed it. It was reading in the diags as only 50% good with the tool hard drive health. It only had 2 gigs of space left in the c drive. I moved the files to a d partition to make more space.
So at this point it is booting up but occasionally shutting down. It has 2 partitions. and I put the HD in my computer as a slave.

So I try to use partitioning tools. I tried to copy the 14 gig HD to another partition that is bigger. I succeed and now have a 28 gig partition that looks like it is copied. I bring the tower to my house, and put the hard drive back. Now it does not boot.
I change the active drive to the 28 gig and it does nothing when booting. Just stops no error message.
I put the active back to the 14 gig and it does not boot either. No error message...just the HP screen some diags that lets me know it sees the 80 gig hd then it stops.
no error message.
I also have another partition which the files are on.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 12:48 PM

I put it back on as a slave
the e drive is 14 gig and has the os files I can see and should boot but doesnt
f has an error file corrupt or unreadable probably the 28 gig drive that I tried to copy the boot drive to.
g has 15 mg and 5 is used but I cant see anything but 1 shortcut
so now I cant find the partition with the files in it.
I used partition magic, super fdisk

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 08:33 PM

Edit: Thanks for clearing up all those details.

Did you clone the HDD to another good HDD, as you suggested in your first post?

If not, you should do it now, before the situation deteriorates any further.

Let me know of your intended method to do this before starting, because not all cloning methods are equal when dealing with a damaged HDD/bad sectors.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:37 AM

yes, that was the problem.....when i tried to clone it it gave me an error, something like..... fail to copy....and it hung there.

thanks jan

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:58 PM

I fixed the mbr and recovered the partition and it now boots, and I can see the files so I copied them to an external drive.
The hard drive health meter shows 44%

I am going to try to clone using acronis home edition

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 09:57 PM

Good job.

Once you have cloned to a new drive, with a bit of luck you won't have any more trouble.

Test the old drive with the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic tool (preferably using a bootable CD with the DOS diagnostic tool version):

Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 12:14 AM

I cloned it and now the health shows 100% :thumbup2: It changed the 14 gig to 58 gig and now I have a total of 3 partitions. I only want 2...one for a backup of files in-case I have to re-install the os. What is the best way to config and what should I use to delete the one extra partition?

I will test the drive...I read that most drives returned are not really bad.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 12:31 AM

You can use G-Parted to delete the partition.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 08:10 PM

Thanks it worked
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