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I believe my CPU is damaged from overheating


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#1 mikec84

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 04:03 PM

So, I woke up to find my computer was off, which I leave on all the time, and when I turned it on it gave me a notice before it got to windows that there was a cpu fan problem.

My fan has been loud for quite some time and one of the "legs" that screw in kinda broke a while back so only 3 attached to the MOBO.

When I got this notice I just went out and bought a new fan and installed it (an even better one mind you). The first time booting with new fan, I get this lag when I move the mouse across the screen and everything moves slow as its loading all the programs. (this has NEVER happened before. Sure, my computer gets bogged down from running a lot of programs, but the mouse cursor never jumps across the screen and startup is normally pretty fast.)

Task manager shows 100% cpu usage and the temps run a little high at this point (speedfan), but after all the background programs load, the temps fell quite low compared to what they were with old fan and everything "seemed" to be ok.

When I play any games now its so laggy that I cant. even if i turn the graphics down. My point is, I think the fan went out overnight and continued to run and overheated the cpu which shut down and is permanently damaged now. I just need to know if this sounds like the case.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 04:38 PM

No what damaged your CPU was using a mounting bracket with only 3 screws. The dead fan only aided and sped up the damage that was being done to your CPU prior to fan dying.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 05:18 PM

Alrighty, but you are agreeing that these would be symptoms of a damaged cpu. Right?

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 05:41 PM

Kinda sounds like it. Just for fun, what was the make/model of the new fan you installed (I just want to make sure I am properly visualizing your machine)?

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 07:09 PM

Alrighty, but you are agreeing that these would be symptoms of a damaged cpu. Right?



Yes I am agreeing with your assumptions.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:41 PM

I sure would like some more info before I condemn the CPU.

Your symptoms sound exactly like a CPU throttling down. No matter what speedfan says, you might have a case of improper heatsink contact. A CPU should throttle down before damage occurs (depending upon the CPU), which is why more info would be helpful.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 10:52 PM

The new fan is a rf-upcuwr by rocketfish. it might not be getting good contact, the way this affixes to the mobo is real funky, i really hate it actually. it doesn't screw on it like snaps in.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 11:49 PM

And what brand of CPU is it? AMD or intel?

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 11:51 PM

Its intel

CPU: Intel Pentium D 830 3.0GHz / 2MB Cache / 800 FSB / OEM / Socket 775 / Dual-Core / Processor MPN: HH80551PG0802MN

Motherboard: ASUS P5QPL-AM

Ram: OCZ Dual Channel XTC 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz Gamer Memory (2 x 1024MB) MPN: OCZ26672048ELGEGXT-K

Storage: C: ST3500418AS Connected Via SATA D: WDC WD3200JB-00KFA0 Connected Via IDE

Video Card: EVGA GeForce 7900 GS KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI Ready / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card MPN: 256-P2-N624-AR

Soundcard: On board

Power Supply: Earthwatts EA-500 500W Max

Case: PowerUp AK-18 ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB and Audio Ports MPN: TC3J-4503

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 11:59 PM

The good news is, intel CPUs have better thermal protection then AMD, but that doesn't mean its not damaged. Also, Ive noticed with clip on heatsinks (I have one for my pentium D 930) is they don't always seat right and sometimes can be a real pain in the rear to get them to install properly, so that could indeed be the problem. Also, this may be a stupid question, but did you apply a thin, even layer of a good high quality thermal compount such as Arctic Silver 5 on the Die of the CPU before mounting the heatsink?

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 12:05 AM

Well... last time I had to use thermal paste it came whith a little stick and I was sure I read to apply it thinly and evenly. This guy working for the best buy geek squad was saying to just put a pin sized bit in the middle and it will smooth out once the heatsink is fastened. I followed the best buy guy's advice and I also just used what came with it which was kinda greyish. Maybe I will just start from scratch and apply it the way I was told to before and use either the Antec formula 5 silver compound or the dynex one i have ??

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 12:14 AM

You don't need very much, just enough to evenly cover the die, you shouldnt see any silver, but you dont want it very thick either. Me personally, I never use the stuff that comes with heatsinks-I always replace it with good quality thermal paste, usually Arctic silver 5, though ive heard OCZ freeze is good as well. However, the stock stuff if applied right shouldnt affect. I would start by taking that heatsink off, cleaning off the paste, reapplying it, and then reattaching the heatsink making sure it has good contact (with mine, I remove the motherboard, attach the heatsink, so I can look and see the contact, and then put the motherboard heatsink and all into the case making sure not to bump the heatsink) and try it then. If that doesn't work, replace the CPU. Good news is, Pentium Ds are a dime a dozen, I picked my 930 up off ebay for like $30 bucks.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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#13 mikec84

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:09 AM

Yeah its just messed up. I took the mobo off and cleaned up all the old thermal paste. I spread a thin layer of new thermal paste evenly and everything, but still no luck. I appreciate the help and will start looking for a replacement. At least I can use it for the most part :/

Thanks everyone!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:18 PM

Check ebay-Like I said, I found my LGA 777 Pentium D 930 there for like 30 bucks, and a quick search found several CPUs for about that price that will work with your system.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:15 PM

My fan has been loud for quite some time and one of the "legs" that screw in kinda broke a while back so only 3 attached to the MOBO.



Check ebay-Like I said, I found my LGA 777 Pentium D 930 there for like 30 bucks, and a quick search found several CPUs for about that price that will work with your system.


Based upon the BOLD a new CPU will not fix his issue. He will need a new motherboard, or an aftermarket CPU/Heatsink Combination to allow for maximum contact for the CPU and Heatsink. Otherwise hell experience the same issue with the new CPU as with his current one.




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