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#1 harmank70

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 06:45 PM

I am building this computer for general web browsing and gaming. I picked a mobo with onboard video and will purchase a vided card when funds permit. This will be my first build.

1. Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
2. Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
3. mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157191
4. memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145195
5. hdd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283
6. dvd rw http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
7. os http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
8. psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037

Look good for a 1st build?

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#2 cryptodan

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 07:16 PM

You will need to pick DDR3 RAM as your motherboard does not support DDR2.

I would also recommend a full tower case, so that you can put another video card in it and have ample air flow.

Other then that I think you did very well.

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 11:32 PM

Agreed. That is a very good first build. Here are some considerations:

CPU: Great choice, but you can save some money by going with a Phenom II 955 and simply overclocking it to 965 levels. They are the same hardware in all respects, only the clock speed and price differ.
Case: That's a little pricey for a steel and plastic case. Lian-Li makes excellent aluminum/steel cases for around that price: LIAN LI PC-7FN. Either case will work fine, but if you're going to be using the large graphics cards, you may want to get a full-ATX case.
Motherboard: Good mobo for a simple gaming PC. If you're going to use Crossfire, I suggest an 890FX motherboard or an 890GX motherboard with 8x/8x PCI-E X16 performance.
RAM; You need to use DDR3-1333 RAM, such as this: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333.
HDD: There are also SATA 6 drives with 64MB of cache you can get, but I don't think there is much of a performance advantage over the one you've chosen.
ODD: Nothing special...
OS: Of course. No typical home user needs Professional or Ultimate anyway.
PSU: I take it you are going to be using high-end performance GPU's in a multi-GPU setup later down the road? Otherwise, unless you've got a great deal on a PSU, a 700W PSU is overkill. Other brands to consider are Corsair, Sparkle, Seasonic, and Silverstone.

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 11:37 PM

I would recommend the Antec 1200, as I have heard that people cut their hands frequently on Lian-Li's.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 11:10 AM

1. Ok looking into the lian lee cases now. I noticed a lot of the reviews of the asrock 890gx were bad.A lot of doa's. Just not sure if for a 1st build if its worth the gamble?

2. I will be staying with a single gpu higher end, would you recommend 500-600 watts psu?

3. Anything else im missing? I see a lot of reviews recommend a sata cable with a 90 degree end to plug into the mobo.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 11:15 AM

The PSU you picked is pretty good.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 07:47 PM

3. Anything else im missing? I see a lot of reviews recommend a sata cable with a 90 degree end to plug into the mobo.

That depends.
If you're using a Mid-tower case, 3 90° plugs could be useful, due to space constraints, but only 3.
The rest would have to be straight plugs, due to the way your MOBO connections are set up.
You're setup is going to look like this, 3 banks of 2 sockets:

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You would be able to use 90° plugs in the top, or bottom sockets, if you're only using 3 SATA cables.
More than 3 SATA cables, and you would have to use a 90° in the top socket, and a straight in the bottom socket.
If you tried to use 2 90° plugs on the same bank, the bottom 90° wouldn't plug in all the way, due to interference from the top 90° plug.

If you're going to use a Full-tower case, 90° plugs would not be necessary, as you would have plenty of room to use straight plugs.
I use a Full-tower, and as you can see, there is enough space between the MOBO and harddrive cage, to make 90° plugs unnecessary.

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Depending on the Mid-tower case selected, you could have considerably less room to work with, so 90° plugs might be handy to have.
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P, CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Deneb BE, HS/F: CoolerMaster V8, RAM: 2 x 1G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800, VGA: ECS GeForce Black GTX 560, PSU: Antec TruePower Modular 750W, Soundcard: Asus Xonar D1, Case: CoolerMaster COSMOS 1000, Storage: Internal - 2 x Seagate 250GB SATA, 2 x WD 1TB SATA; External - Seagate 500GB USB, WD 640GB eSATA, 3 x WD 1TB eSATA

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 11:40 PM

I own a Lian-Li and haven't cut myself, though, I still have the safety strip installed. If you're going with a single GPU setup, you don't really need a higher end chipset aside from the 880G. If you are going to be using Crossfire, you would want the 890GX or the 890FX boards, but if you're not, there is little to be gained for the increased price tag. You could go for a less expensive PSU, such as the CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W, but you are getting a decent 700W PSU for about $10 to $15 over most quality 500W PSU's, and if you are going to be upgrading to X2 GPU's or doing an upgrade to Crossfire it may be worthwhile to stick with what you have. With all computer electronics, they are mass produced and there is always a chance for a DOA component, if you really want an 890GX motherboard from a different manufacturer than ASRock, the GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX or the ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX are alternative. For the 880G, you can also go for the GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G or the ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:58 AM

Ok after a lot of research i have decided on the componets below. I am a 1st time builder and was curious if i am missing anything that i will need to complete the build. Also is there a good tutorial for building and setting up a new computer. I am ordering tomorrow, and hope to be building it next weekend. My christmas present to myself.



Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157188
Psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226094
Hdd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283
Dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
Os http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
Paste http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

I will be ordering the gpu next month. When funds permit.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:59 AM

Personally, I'd change the Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz to a Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz.
It's a $15 cheaper processor, and if you find you really need the extra .2GHz, it's a simple process to change the multiplier to achieve 3.4GHz performance.
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P, CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Deneb BE, HS/F: CoolerMaster V8, RAM: 2 x 1G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800, VGA: ECS GeForce Black GTX 560, PSU: Antec TruePower Modular 750W, Soundcard: Asus Xonar D1, Case: CoolerMaster COSMOS 1000, Storage: Internal - 2 x Seagate 250GB SATA, 2 x WD 1TB SATA; External - Seagate 500GB USB, WD 640GB eSATA, 3 x WD 1TB eSATA

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:01 PM

I agree with tg1911, it is more cost-effective to get the 955 and simply overclock it to 965 levels since they are largely the exact same part. You also don't need the thermal paste since it should come pre-applied to the cooler AMD provides. You can simply scrape it off and use your Arctic Silver. Otherwise, everything looks good!

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 11:56 AM

I completed my build a couple of days ago. I would like to thank everyone who helped guide me through the process.

A couple of questions

1. About 1/2 of the time the mouse doesn't get reconized when windows boots or resumes. The light on the mouse wheel doesn't light. If i unplug the mouse and plug it back in it will start working. I have updated the mouse driver. I have also installed the mobo drivers from asrock.

2. Also i am going to be purchasing a graphics card soon. Would like suggestions. Max budget around 200.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102909

3. Also what size monitor for casual use and some gaming. Was looking at this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 03:48 PM

What do you consider casual gaming? When I hear someone say that, I think of facebook games and king.com games.

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 04:24 PM

Starcraft,Wow

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 04:43 PM

Your Sapphire 6870 that you linked to is over your budget of $200...
The next lower card would be something like the 6850 - $170 after rebate

And monitor size is completely up to you. I'm happy with my current 21.5" monitor.




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