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Its been a while since I've been on here, is this build still good?


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#1 CallMeTy

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 09:17 PM

i been away from the site for a long time now, but im almost done with school now and i want to get back to my original plans. this was the build that thepatriot helped me put together a while ago. but since its been some time im wondering how good it is today.
motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128416 $140

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103727 $190

memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220433 $190

Video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102857 $300

Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817371026 $110 ($90 after rebate)

CD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136177 $27.00

lets throw in a Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824254039 $150

the things that have changed is im looking to get the coolermaster x haf942 full tower case. im wanting to keep it an AMD build. WOW may not be the only game i play now. multitasking is still big for me. i will watch some movies on the pc but probably not many, just some through netflix. but now im wanting blazing speed and storage. and my price range has increased now some as well. somewhere around $2000 would be fine. so what you guys think. i hope i was specific enough

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 09:48 PM

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 10:06 PM

aww man dang. well letss focus on this part "
the things that have changed is im looking to get the coolermaster x haf942 full tower case. im wanting to keep it an AMD build. WOW may not be the only game i play now. multitasking is still big for me. i will watch some movies on the pc but probably not many, just some through netflix. but now im wanting blazing speed and storage. and my price range has increased now some as well. somewhere around $2000 would be fine. so what you guys think. i hope i was specific enough "

what kind of system can i build using this information. i really want a grade A system with expandability.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 07:45 AM

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103849
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131667
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231391
Harddrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136579
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102889
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817153118
CD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827106335
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824001416

Total:$2030 Extra $30
This is what i call A+ computer, hardcore components!

Edited by killerx525, 12 October 2010 - 07:45 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 08:37 AM

^Good build, but
1) That motherboard is extreme overkill. This should be good enough: ASRock 870 EXTREME3
2) Both motherboards only support up to DDR3-1333. Getting higher speeds would require overclocking. This is good enough: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
3) You're not going to find a reliable hard drive with that high of a capacity at this time. I would get this: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS. For a high-end build, it would also be a good idea to invest in a solid-state disk with which to install Windows. I would recommend a capacity of 60GB or higher.
4) The video card is unnecessarily expensive. The GIGABYTE GV-R587OC-1GD Radeon HD 5870 is a more powerful card and $5 less.
5) I wouldn't buy a PSU with only three reviews. The CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX should supply more than enough power, even for crossfire.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:05 PM

im still going through the differences, but can someone explain a solid state disk to me

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:35 PM

Rainbowsix, can you kindof explain the limitations of the build you suggested because it seems to be a considerable amount less then the one killer suggested. im not saying this is a bad thing or nothing. just kinda want to get an idea of what im getting.

* is this GIGABYTE GV-R587OC-1GD Radeon HD 5870 the same one as this ?

Edited by CallMeTy, 12 October 2010 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2010 - 05:35 PM

A solid state disk is a flash-based hard drive without any moving parts. There is almost no latency, making Windows (and whatever else is on the SSD) start much faster.

As for the video card: yes it is the same. It's not the same vendor, but it is the same GPU and will perform just as well.

The motherboard I suggested is a mid-range board with two PCI-E x16 slots, with crossfire at x8/x8 mode. The one suggested by killerx525 has five PCI-E x16 slots with x16/x16/x8/x8 quad-crossfire support. This is overkill unless you plan to use more than two video cards, which is not recommended. At that point, other components cause a bottleneck.

The memory in the other list is a higher speed, but it will be throttled down unless you get a super high-end motherboard which supports that speed. The memory I linked to is rated for 1333 which is the standard for most DDR3 motherboards.

The hard drive I linked to has a lower capacity but higher reliability and a much better value of price per gigabyte. You could even buy three of these for less than the price of the 2TB hard drive in the other list.

The Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 in the other list above is pre-overclocked, but with ATI catalyst overclocking is a breeze. It's not worth the extra money in my opinion.

The PSU I recommended supplies slightly less power but would still be more than enough, even with a few upgrades.

EDIT: This would be a NICE monitor to go with that build.

Edited by RainbowSix, 12 October 2010 - 06:00 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:27 PM

I'm a little late to this party, as usual, but I will add my two cents in here.

1. Killerx's build is nice, but a bit overkill. However, Patriot's motherboard should be swapped out for something a little higher-end. If you think you are going to be using CrossfireX, I would go for the ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX, but if you don't care about squeezing every last frame-per-second out of your games in such a configuration, the GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 is a cost-effective alternative. ASRock is sort of the less expensive, slightly less quality version of Asus motherboards. They are still good boards, just not for high-end rigs like this.

2. Solid state disks are are not mechanical. Current hard drives have platters which spin and a head reads the data. SSD's use flash memory, or a similar variant, instead. The price per gigabyte is huge, but the drives are very fast.

3. Be aware that AMD will be releasing newer, high-end graphics cards in the Radeon 6000 series sometime at the beginning of 2011. If you want to save some money, the HIS H585FN1GD Radeon HD 5850 is also a worthwhile card that is about 10% or so slower than the 5870 in some games.

4. For a monitor, I would still go for Asus, but get one that has an LED backlight. LED backlit monitors are more expensive, but are more energy efficient, have higher contrast, and are often faster than traditional tube LCD's. Here's an LED LCD from Asus that is also very good: ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23". By the way, speakers included with some monitors are often garbage, don't use them.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:57 PM

pretty straight forward info, thnx yall
so should i wait to do this build til early 2011 so i can get the better graphics cards. or still do the build and swap out graphics cards later? im assuming this is an easy task. i really dont know if ill be using/needing 2 graphics cards yet. like i said the only game i was into hardcore was WOW. but i know some games never make it to xbox360. thats where my explandibility comes into play. i dont want to be locked into a system that i cant upgrade. mainly GPU wise. both builds look awesome to me but who am i. i can put it all together but just not sure what parts to buy. anyway. the only other things that i can think of to help you guys help me is, i graduated a graphic design student so i use adobe photoshop and adobe illustrator alot. i also use CAD programs to design buildings (nothing commercial just personal use), and now im finishing up at UTI, so ill probably also be tinkering with car models on the computer (just for custom work). anything else you guys think or need just let me know. cuz after thinking about this stuff i need some guidance.

Also is HAF X942 overkill for this build?

oh and nobody suggested a SSD?

Edited by CallMeTy, 12 October 2010 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:03 PM

I wouldn't call it overkill, but I think the Cooler Master Cosmos would be a better choice.
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 12:11 AM

Hehe overkill system but the processor i suggested is top of the AMD range!

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:21 PM

The CPU suggested in Killer's build is AMD's flagship model. If your games or applications can utilize the six cores, you will have your money's worth, otherwise, if your progams are limited to four or less cores, a Phenom II X4 955 would be more cost-effective. The Cosmos is an excellent case and should really be at the top of your list for cases if you can afford it. SSD's are good for random read/write cycles, such as with system startup, because they can access the information spread out on their chips more quickly than platter-based drives. Once the system starts up and you begin doing work, it may not increase your frames per second that much and the small size, capacity wise, compared to price makes the drives a luxury item. If you go SSD, I suggest using one for your operating system and perhaps one or two very frequently used applications and nothing else.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:45 AM

Well right now I think I may want to try 1 SSD to run windows 7. So I would need one with 60mb capacity? The cosmos case is ok. It hasn't really grew on me yet. The two things I'm concerned about are I have big hands and I want room for expansion. I'm thinking about getting 2 5870s and I don't want to worry about fitting issues. What other full cases you guys like? I had another question about mobos but I can't remember right now cuz I'm in class.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:56 AM

I like the Thermaltake Armour+, it has some many adjustable things and the circulation would be really good if you buy the extra fans to it.
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx...277&ID=1408

Also it has 4 fans to cool your graphics! But you gonna have to buy the fans.

Edited by killerx525, 14 October 2010 - 08:01 AM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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