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#1 blutarski

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 08:54 PM

I've been having problems with my computer for... I don't know, approximately 4 months now, well, subsequent system re-installs later, and I'm still having issues, albeit different ones. Recently, my computer has been sending me to random sites, usually some sort of porn, with absolutely no prompting. Also, today, when I tried to run windows task manager, hijackthis, and norton antivirus, they all were ended immediately. Does anybody have any clue as to what may be the problem with this godforsaken lump of dookie we call a computer.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 09:03 PM

Well one thought is that you have malware installed on your computer. Reinstalling Windows will take care of the problem as long as you formatted the hard drive and did not reinstall your data. If you did in fact reinstall your data, then the malware may be hiding in there. Or perhaps you are reinstalling a rogue program.

Perhaps you can enlighten us as to exactly how you have been reinstalling Windows, and give us any and all details, then we can steer you in a better direction.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 10:17 PM

HiJackThis will not remove anything. Try ewido and Ad-Aware, and Spybot S&D, but run them in Safe mode. Also run the anti-virus in Safe mode. Another good one to use is CCleaner - www.ccleaner.com One program will find what the other will miss so it is good to run several.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 11:57 PM

You definitely have a hijacker which in edition to sending you to porn sites, is disabling programs like Hijack This and others.

A full reformat and fresh installation of Windows is indicated as far as I can see.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 02:18 AM

HiJackThis will not remove anything. Try ewido and Ad-Aware, and Spybot S&D, but run them in Safe mode. Also run the anti-virus in Safe mode. Another good one to use is CCleaner - www.ccleaner.com One program will find what the other will miss so it is good to run several.



While you are correct the HighJackThis program will not remove any virus' or malware, the highly skilled members of the HJT Team will. It is apparent from your post you do not understand the HJT program. Before making recommendation on services provide on this forum I would read the pinned items in the HJT forum. This program was never designed as an end user program, but as a diagnostic tool for the experts that will guide the average user thru the task of cleaning their computer.
I see nothing in this POST that indicates a reinstall of the OS is neccessary, as of yet. It may come to that but let's try to work it out.
Have you tried to boot to safe mode? Do you know ho to run your Norton AV in safe mode from the command prompt. That is the first step into unlocking your computer. Go to the Norton web site and print the instruction on how to run Norton from the command prompt. This will hopefully allow you to start you AV before the virus' can take hold.
Do you have any anti spyware programs already installed on your computer?
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 10:34 AM

First, before all else, visit a couple of these free, online scanners and see what they find (something nasty could have slipped by your protection):

http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
http://www.bitdefender.com/scan8/ie.html
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm
http://onlinescan.avast.com/
http://support.f-secure.com/ols/start.html
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx

Then, if it can't remove it all - visit the HJT forum here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/22/virus-trojan-spyware-and-malware-removal-logs/ , read the instructions carefully, and submit your log for the experts to work on.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 01:04 PM

Then, if it can't remove it all - visit the HJT forum here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/22/virus-trojan-spyware-and-malware-removal-logs/ , read the instructions carefully, and submit your log for the experts to work on.


Sound and good advice.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:14 PM

Thank you all for the suggestions on how to fix my p.O.s. computer, I do realize that hijack this does not alone delete infected stuff, but I would have submitted a log file in the hjt forum, however, I can't even run a scan so, yeah. I'll try all of that, and if that doesn't work... I'm going to blow up my computer and get a new one, because I just did a three system re-installs last week alone. Oh yeah, and when I am doing that, I am reformatting the hard drive, and using an OEM disk from dell, so theoretically it should be clean. So, um, yeah, thanks folks.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 07:14 PM

There are several reasons for a failed install. I upgraded a P-III 550 Compaq from 128 mb RAM to 512 mb and tried to clean install W2k. I had a bad 256 mb stick of RAM. It would corrupt the files as they were copied to the hard drive. I removed the bad RAM and it completely installed.
I would recommend conducting a wipe instead of a format of the drive. Formatting leaves information on the drive. By wiping the drive you overwrite the data which destroys the data. A DOD wipe (Department Of Defence) overwrite the information 7 times making it un-retrievable.
I like Digital Dolly 1.0 for most of my drive maintance. It's freeware. Unzip and burn the .iso image to cd. It boots to a Linux base GUI and is easy to under stand.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:05 PM

Another reason you may get recurring problems is if your PC is not secure and you go online. I think the average time to get infected by going online with a Windows XP (unpatched) system is a few minutes.

See this tutorial - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/safely-connecting-a-computer-to-the-internet/

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 10:28 AM

There are also certain viruses that reside deep down on the hard drive and can't be removed with an ordinary format.

In that vein, I'd suggest that along with the next reinstall that you do, you perform a low-level format on the hard drive. The utilities for this (along with instructions) are usually available for free on the hard drive manufacturer's website.

And, frankly, if you do a low-level format, a clean install, and you update Windows and all your drivers to the latest version - then the problem's gotta go away because all the software is brand spanking new.

FWIW - here's what I use (and recommend) for security applications:
1) A hardware firewall (a router) between the modem and the computer
2) A software firewall (I like the free Sygate Personal Edition)
3) An anti-virus program (I like the free AVG Free program - especially since it auto-updates and scans your email)
4) An antispyware program (I like the free Microsoft Antispyware Beta - especially since it auto-updates)
5) A browser that combats pop ups and isn't as popular as IE (because that's what the hackers target). I use Firefox v1.5rc2 and it's great!
6) If you're gonna use IE anyway - then add this stuff:
- Popup Blocker from Google
- IE SpyAd
- BHO Demon
- MVPS (might be MSVP) Hosts file
- tighten all the security stuff in the IE Internet Options.
My browser caused a flood of traffic, sio my IP address was banned. Hope to fix it soon. Will get back to posting as soon as Im able.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 10:08 PM

Thank you all for the suggestions on how to fix my p.O.s. computer, I do realize that hijack this does not alone delete infected stuff, but I would have submitted a log file in the hjt forum, however, I can't even run a scan so, yeah. I'll try all of that, and if that doesn't work... I'm going to blow up my computer and get a new one, because I just did a three system re-installs last week alone. Oh yeah, and when I am doing that, I am reformatting the hard drive, and using an OEM disk from dell, so theoretically it should be clean. So, um, yeah, thanks folks.


It's more than likely your surfing and downloading habits and/or or lack of AV and malware protection that has caused the infestation of malware in your computer. Getting a new one if the hardware in your computer is good will not solve anything.

Unless you learn how to surf safely and use appropriate malware protection to prevent malware infection you will soon be back in the same situation with your new computer.

Do you use P2P aps? That is the quickest way I know to get your computer infested with malware.

I suggest you let us help you clean the infection and then get appropriate software to prevent further infection.

Freeware AntiSpyware and Security Programs

Software firewalls with freeware versions
Free Zone Alarm SE: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/comp...;NONE?lid=ho_za

Sygate: http://www.sygate.com/

Antivirus programs - freeware (you can only use one resident anti-virus program on your computer. More than one will conflict)

AVG: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php

Avast Anti-virus freeware
http://www.komando.com/bestshareware.asp


Anti-malware freeware (You can run as many of these as you wish. Generally there is no conflict between these and you should always run several)

*AdAware SE: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

*Spybot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

*the two most important to have!

Microsoft Antispyware Beta: http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx

SpywareBlaster: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (Win XP and Win 2000):
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

AČ - Free from http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4281.html . Run it, click Search for Updates, then click Scan.


CWShredder
CW Shredder removes some variants of spyware known as the Coolwebsearch Trojan. The Trojan takes advantage of a flaw in a key component of Windows -- Microsoft's version of the Java Virtual Machine -- to install itself via popups often found on porn and illegal software (a.k.a. "warez") sites. Run CWShredder after installing, and have it look for updates. Then click the "Fix" button, and the program will both scan and fix any problems it finds. If your system does not have this kind of spyware, it will give you the good news.
Freeware
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshr...r_download.html

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA)
MBSA is an easy-to-use tool designed for the IT professional that helps small and medium businesses determine their security state in accordance with Microsoft security recommendations and offers specific remediation guidance. Improve your security management process by using MBSA to detect common security misconfigurations and missing security updates on your computer systems.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...s/mbsahome.mspx
Web based online Antivirus and anti-malware scans: (these can be run regardless of whatever else you are using. You must use Internet Explorer to run these.)

Kaspersky Anti-Virus Web Scanner
http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest


Panda Activescan (IE only)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/co...n_principal.htm

Trend Micro antivirus and malware scan:
http://housecall-beta.trendmicro.com/en/st...orp.asp?id=scan

Trend Micro antivirus European Edition (supports Mozilla based browsers)
http://uk.trendmicro-europe.com/consumer/h...call_launch.php

Etrust Anti-virus web scanner
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx.

online trojan scans here -
http://scan.sygatetech.com/pretrojanscan.html

http://windowsecurity.com/trojanscan

Windows Security Trojanscan
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/trojanscan.asp

Edited by Enthusiast, 17 November 2005 - 10:10 PM.





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