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#1 toolman

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 01:12 PM

I am working on an Aptiva 2140 L31 for a neighbor. We have added max ram. Did a clean install of windows xp, added service pack 2 and all other updates. All systems are working, including the sound card. The issue I am having and continue to read several old problems of the same nature is this machine has a MM55 monitor that has Bose speakers attached that are amplified by an amp inside the PC. They were working before we did the xp install but at current have been unable to find the right driver or XP setting to allow this to work. Hoping someone with past experience can help.

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Just wanted to add this link, may help others with aptiva problems:

http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/ftp/m...bbs/aptiva/?S=A

Edited by toolman, 12 November 2005 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2005 - 09:59 PM

Have you checked the device manager to see if the sound card is working?
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Posted 12 November 2005 - 10:03 PM

Have you checked the device manager to see if the sound card is working?


I have ran dxdiag. everything shows good. I can plug external poewered speakers in and the work fine, it is the internal amplifier that I can't get to power the bose speakers

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 10:20 PM

If you can get inside you may want to check and see if the internal amp has a fuse. Have you tried the different skeaker on the internal amp?
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Posted 12 November 2005 - 10:38 PM

If you can get inside you may want to check and see if the internal amp has a fuse. Have you tried the different skeaker on the internal amp?


There are no signs of a fuse on this card. It was working befor the upgrade to XP. The bose speakers have a special plug for the amplifier, so I would have to go to great trouble to try other speakers.

I came across the following today, it references XCTRL0 and XCTRL1, I haven't a clue on where to change these. Have you a clue?

Sound Drivers for the Crystal CS4231, 4232 (A, :thumbsup:, 4235, 4236 (B, D, E), 4237B, 4238B, 4239

<<=NOTE=>> for 4231, 4232 and 4236 use 'Mode2' driver version (latest 1.7)

<<=TIP=>> If you have problems with the Yamaha OPL3-SAx chipset: According to a user, instead of using the Yamaha OPL-3 SAx drivers for the same audio chipset, using the driver for Crystal CS4232 works fine without any limitations.

A FREE mixer for the crystal cards is LBCSMix V.1.0 from http://freebyte.ml.org/~boga/OS2Programs.html

Parameter for 'mode3' drivers:


/N: Name of PDD BSAUD1$ (Supplied by install)
/V Verbose Display
/X1: AUX1 unmute/gain 0..100 (decimal) (*50) (usually "Line-In")
/X2: AUX2 unmute/gain 0..100 (decimal) (*50) (usually CD-ROM)
/L: LINE unmute/gain 0..100 (decimal) (*100)(FM volume)
/LCAPT: Line-In record source X1, X2, *X1X2, L (X1X2 is mixed aux1+aux2)
/T: Inactivity power down 1..5 minutes (*1)
/MBY:<0,1> Mono bypass *1 (mono-in connected to mono-out)
/MIM:<0,1> Mono input mute *1 (mono-in not connected to input mixer)
/MOM:<0,1> Mono out mute *0 (audible)
/XCTRL0:<0,1> XCTRL0 Pin set System specific. Sometimes used to
/XCTRL1:<0,1> XCTRL1 Pin set control power to amplifier. On IBM
Aptiva with Bose speakers, set both to 1

/P: Codec Port *534, 608, (530..FF8, divisible by 4)
/I: Codec IRQ *5, 7, 9, 11, 15 (decimal)
/D: Codec DMA 0, 1, 3 (Default 1,0)
/C: Control Port 120, *538, (120..FF8, divisible by 8)
/J: Joystick Port *200, 208, NONE
/S: Sound Blaster Port *220, 240, 260, 280, NONE
/M: MPU Port and IRQ *330, NONE, (300..3E0, divisible by 8)
IRQ: 7, 9, 11, 12, 15, *NONE
/F: FM synth port *388, NONE, (388..3F8, divisible by 8)

/IRQRate:dd Target interrupt rate *32 Range: 1..64 interrupts per second
/DMASize:nnnn DMA Buf size maximum *8192 Range: 256..16384 (2 IRQs/Buffer)

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 08:38 AM

<<=TIP=>> If you have problems with the Yamaha OPL3-SAx chipset: According to a user, instead of using the Yamaha OPL-3 SAx drivers for the same audio chipset, using the driver for Crystal CS4232 works fine without any limitations.

A FREE mixer for the crystal cards is LBCSMix V.1.0 from http://freebyte.ml.org/~boga/OS2Programs.html

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It appears he/she is referring to using a different driver set with this card. CS4232 driver.
First try to locate the driver in the XP install.
You will need to delete the device from the device manager. Restart your computer. When it asks if you want to install the sound card pick the manual option and select the driver that was recommended. If it is not listed, download the driver from the link above and unzip it into it's own folder. Repeat the install process and point the installer to the folder the downloaded driver sits in.
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Posted 13 November 2005 - 09:20 AM

I have tried just about every driver I could get my machine to download. This actually has a dual chip sound card CS4238 and CS4610. From all that I have read on this, the only "fix" that claims to at least get the speakers to work is this

1) If you have a multi-boot setup first start win95/98, after which
you can restart to win2000. (This is only necessary after a system
power-off).


2 ) Boot from the Diagnostic CDRom, then start Win2000 (by hitting
C-A-D .


3) (Create and) modify (see below) the standard Win9x standalone
emergency diskettes and boot from those first.


4) Create a bootable CDRom (on which you might also place some
emergency repair programs, boot/partition managers and Backup/Restore
programs like Powerquests Drive Image or Symantecs Norton Ghost if you
use those.


5) If you do have a multi-boot program create a small DOS partition
(based on the Win9x standalone emergency diskettes) (same extra
options apply as for point 4).


On these boot diskettes or CDRom place the following files (from your
existing Win9x system):


Cwbinit.exe
Cwbmix.exe
Cwbaudio.wcm
Cwbaudio.ini


Add the following two commands to Autoexec.bat on the diskette/CDRom:


cwbinit.exe /A
cwbmix /t=1,1


I have Win98SE install CD. Can you tell me how to make a bootable CD from this without installing 98SE on a machine?

Thanks for sticking this out.

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 07:45 PM

Wanted to try the dual boot option, but have not been able to find the file

cwbaudio.wcm

Boot disks for all versions of windo$ found at

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Pretty much at a standstillat this point.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 09:50 PM

Have you checked the device manager to see if the sound card is working?


I have since uninstalled all audio and reinstalled what is thought to be the latest drivers. I now show a problem with the driver for "Sound Fusion"

Am still looking for

cwbaudio.wcm

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