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Mobo w/ 6 ram slots + i7 930 and 4gb ram stick


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#1 s1lents0ul

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 01:50 PM

if i have this board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128423

and this CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115225

and this RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231307

My question is:

My board has 6 RAM slots, which 3 would i use first if i dont have all 6 slots filled? i forget if its 1-3-5 or 2-4-6

The clock speed its 1066 and the Latency is 7, is that ok or should i look into 1333 or the 2200 the board says it can use. O/C would be how i get 2200, correct? and ive never done any O/C of any kind before.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:51 PM

White slots fill first.

Get at least a 3X2gig kit of 1600 (preferably near the 1.5V range vs the 1.65V stuff).That will fit all of your dividers and BCLK just fine. 1600 is the sweet spot for RAM speed on X58s for overclocks.

How did you wind up with a single stick of RAM? Just curious.

Edited by dpunisher, 13 September 2010 - 02:53 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 07:02 PM

What operating system are you using?

Is this a 32-bit or 64-bit operating system?

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 06:12 AM

Sorry, it will be 64 bit.

The board doesnt support 1600mhz according to the spec layout, can it use 1600mhz? i would prefer that.

I am using a 4gb stick because:

i want to keep the option to have 24gb of ram, not 12gb with 2gb sticks
the 4gb stick is under 100$

unless having (6) 2gb sticks will be faster(gaming) then i would stay with 4gb sticks (i dont think i will go over 12mb of RAM) so if having 6 is better then 3 then let me know


Number of Memory Slots 6240pin
Memory Standard DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800
Maximum Memory Supported 24GB
Channel Supported Triple Channel
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 06:50 AM

3 sticks will always be better than 6. More sticks= more potential instability.

1600 RAM will work just fine.

If you want 24gigs of RAM, you want 24gigs of RAM. Don't know of what use it will be outside of a server environment though.

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:46 AM

ok, good point. Not a server so not necessary

So I would prefer 12gb in my system tho, so (3) 4gb sticks is better then (6) 2gb sticks, correct?

Another question or two.

Why 1.5v instead of 1.65v?

What latency would be preferable, 6, 7, 8, or 9?

I was looking at this, after the replies so far, I want to say this is a much better choice then the (1) 4gb stick

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231335

Edited by s1lents0ul, 14 September 2010 - 10:56 AM.

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 03:25 PM

Yup, if you want 12gigs, a 3X4 setup would be best. Man, how RAM prices have fallen. It is just once again, the law of diminishing returns hits. You would be hard pressed to see any performance difference with 6 vs 12gigs of RAM on a home system.

I prefer 1.5V as it runs cooler, and tends to give more overhead vs 1600 speed RAM with similar timings at 1.65V (which is maximum you should be running on an X58) if other voltages are near stock.

In a perfect world, timings would be 1-1-1-1, but it aint a perfect world sadly. The thing with timings on an X58 is the difference between 7 and 9 are only really noticeable if you are purposely benching memory bandwidth, and even then it is insignificant. On paper it looks good, in the real world you don't notice it.

Just an opinion, I could be wrong (but I'm not).

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 06:24 AM

Ok, well thanks for the input, i was stilll under the impression that having 12 vs 6gb of RAM would make a difference but i guess i wont ever use that much ram. I will go with the 3x2gb pack, thank you dpunisher.

I just have one last question. Why do you say 1600mhz will work on my board when its not listed to work? other boards list other ram speeds like 1600, so im just curious if they just omit that spec on their details page or if it really doesnt work on that board?
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:11 AM

I have built a system with that board (Revision 2 of the UD3R), and have an X58-UD4P on my own system. I used http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231225 without a hitch on both. Cannnot remember if the XMP profile worked automatically on the UD3R board though, but I pushed the memory to 1600 anyway.

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 09:21 AM

just to update, from your last post. the XMP profile did not work automatically, had to go into the BIOS and turn it on. it creates a profile automatically, "profile1".
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 05:38 PM

Ok, well thanks for the input, i was stilll under the impression that having 12 vs 6gb of RAM would make a difference but i guess i wont ever use that much ram. I will go with the 3x2gb pack, thank you dpunisher.

I just have one last question. Why do you say 1600mhz will work on my board when its not listed to work? other boards list other ram speeds like 1600, so im just curious if they just omit that spec on their details page or if it really doesnt work on that board?


you will never really need more than 4 gigs of ram unless you are doing some serious CAD or other pro workstation-type graphix.

the 1600 will work on your board, it will probably be slowed down to 1333mhz though with 3 sticks installed, and down to 1066mhz with 6 sticks installed.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 05:42 PM

which 3 would i use first if i dont have all 6 slots filled?


I hate to be rude, but, read the manual.

Edited by yorkred, 24 December 2010 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

I hate to be rude, but, read the manual.


If you have read the manual, how about posting that information here rather than presuming to be rude. :thumbup2:

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 11:39 PM


Ok, well thanks for the input, i was stilll under the impression that having 12 vs 6gb of RAM would make a difference but i guess i wont ever use that much ram. I will go with the 3x2gb pack, thank you dpunisher.

I just have one last question. Why do you say 1600mhz will work on my board when its not listed to work? other boards list other ram speeds like 1600, so im just curious if they just omit that spec on their details page or if it really doesnt work on that board?


you will never really need more than 4 gigs of ram unless you are doing some serious CAD or other pro workstation-type graphix.

the 1600 will work on your board, it will probably be slowed down to 1333mhz though with 3 sticks installed, and down to 1066mhz with 6 sticks installed.

addi9tionally, there is a negligible performance differrence between 1333mhz and 1600mhz ram, probably around 10%. most applications just dont utilize that much bandwidth, just like most app dont utelize more than 4 gigs of ram.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 01:03 AM

addi9tionally, there is a negligible performance differrence between 1333mhz and 1600mhz ram, probably around 10%. most applications just dont utilize that much bandwidth, just like most app dont utelize more than 4 gigs of ram.


Well, the whole point of 1600 speed RAM is to keep memory dividers happy when overclocking on an X58 board.

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